Bruno, whatever you feel about Don ala Orange, you as a NATO member must take whatever is said by Biden and his Pentagon and his State department carefully. My view is that he will throw you to Putin, or Xi, or yeah, The Ayatollahs, without a look back. You may have believed this of the previous guy, already, but here and now in the Non-Platonic realm you have evidence downloaded to your computer screen. Protect yourselves because I don't think the progressives will. Most of their base just doesn't care and are just like the people who supported isolationism after The Great War. Good Luck, and luck favors the prepared.
-----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> To: Everything List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Aug 18, 2021 8:04 am Subject: Re: Europeans are smarter than Americans I am rather disappointed that Biden took seriously "the negotiation" between Trump and the Talibans, which is more like bandits collaboration. I was rather angry with respect to trump's isolationism, and it is sad that Biden follows him on this.I was hoping that America stays much longer in Afghanistan, and fight against the corruption which put the democracy at risk, and we know see, as the Afghans literally let the Taliban take all controls. It will be very hard for the woman and kids who got a taste of democracy. The Talibans are worst than ISIS, and I think that this event is again a major catastrophe for *all* democracies. Biden felt in a major trap left by Trump, imo. They forget the rule: never negotiate with a terrorist, because that empowers them. I fear for the Pakistan, who has its own Taliban, which celebrate this "victory", and will get more power from this. On Wednesday, August 18, 2021 at 12:47:49 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 3:22 PM <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Trump would have never permitted this replay of Miss Saigon. >>Permitted? What magical thing do you think he would've done to prevent it? >>Trump said all during his administration that we should get out of >>Afghanistan, although for 4 years he never had the guts to actually do so, >>but if reelected he said he do it in May, so do you think he would now cancel >>the pull out and send in an additional 30,000 American troops and keep them >>in Afghanistan forever? Or do you think he'd just get mad and drop an H-Bomb >>on Kabul? > I think that possibility dwelt only within your brain John. Most No Trumpers > never mentioned this possibility even during arguments. More than 200 retired generals, admirals endorse Biden, including some who served under Trump > His manhood is never something that bothered me about his character," since I > am not big on moralism I'm not talking about Trump's habit of sneaking into the dressing rooms of teenage beauty contest contestants or how he liked to "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything. When you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything." ; I was talking about him throwing around H bombs if he thought a foreign leader had implied he had a small dick and no balls, and you indicated such behavior by Trump would be entirely im character under those circumstances. And you also indicated you would approve of such behavior. And that's why Donald Trump's continued existence does not bode well for the continued existence of the human race. And that's why you are a member of something that 20 years ago would've been called "the lunatic fringe", but today you can just be called a "mainstream Republican". > and suspect that like Hunter Biden [,,,] Speaking of presidential offspring, I'll take Hunter Biden over Don Junior or Eric any day! > On Joe's universally condemned fuck up, with Afghanistan, there's nothing > either of us can do now. Certainly the Afghanistan government collapsed much quicker than Joe expected, much faster than I expected, I think even faster than the Taliban expected. I knew it would be fast but I didn't know it would be instantaneous. I think Obama missed an opportunity to get out of Afghanistan in 2011 when he killed Osama bin Laden, after all the original reason for entering Afghanistan in the first place was that after 911 the Taliban gave him safe harbor and refused to turn him over to us for trial, but we couldn't find him and so over the years mission creep started and the new goal was to turn Afghanistan into a Jeffersonian democracy, and that was just never going to work. But of course if Obama had done it and actually gotten out of Afghanistan in 2011 the Republicans would have crucified him. So yes, Kabul does look like Saigon in 1975, but maybe there is just no elegant way to lose a war. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis nbc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/e612ff09-00a3-49c1-96a1-9f9cb7b38884n%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/672209963.1644221.1629330115722%40mail.yahoo.com.
