On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 3:22 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

*>>> Trump would have never permitted this replay of Miss Saigon.*
>>
>> >>Permitted? What magical thing do you think he would've done to prevent
>> it?  Trump said all during his administration that we should get out of
>> Afghanistan, although for 4 years he never had the guts to actually do
>> so, but if reelected he said he do it in May, so do you think he would
>> now cancel the pull out and send in an additional 30,000 American troops
>> and keep them in Afghanistan forever? Or do you think he'd just get mad and
>> drop an H-Bomb on Kabul?
>
>
> *> I think that possibility dwelt only within your brain John. Most No
> Trumpers never mentioned this possibility even during arguments.*
>

More than 200 retired generals, admirals endorse Biden, including some who
served under Trump
<https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/more-200-retired-generals-admirals-endorse-biden-including-some-who-n1240842>



> *> His manhood is never something that bothered me about his character,"
> since I am not big on moralism*
>

I'm not talking about Trump's habit of sneaking into the dressing rooms of
teenage beauty contest contestants or how he liked to "*Grab them by the
pussy. You can do anything. When you're a star they let you do it. You can
do anything*." ; I was talking about him throwing around H bombs if he
thought a foreign leader had implied he had a small dick and no balls, and
you indicated such behavior by Trump would be entirely im character under
those circumstances. And you also indicated you would approve of such
behavior. And that's why Donald Trump's continued existence does not bode
well for the continued existence of the human race. And that's why you are
a member of something that 20 years ago would've been called "the lunatic
fringe", but today you can just be called a "mainstream Republican".

> *and suspect that like Hunter Biden* [,,,]
>

Speaking of presidential offspring, I'll take Hunter Biden over Don Junior
or Eric any day!


> *> On Joe's universally condemned fuck up, with Afghanistan, there's
> nothing either of us can do now. *
>

Certainly the Afghanistan government collapsed much quicker than Joe
expected, much faster than I expected, I think even faster than the Taliban
expected. I knew it would be fast but I didn't know it would be
instantaneous. I think Obama missed an opportunity to get out of
Afghanistan in 2011 when he killed Osama bin Laden, after all the original
reason for entering Afghanistan in the first place was that after 911 the
Taliban gave him safe harbor and refused to turn him over to us for trial,
but we couldn't find him and so over the years mission creep started and
the new goal was to turn Afghanistan into a Jeffersonian democracy, and
that was just never going to work. But of course if Obama had done it and
actually gotten out of Afghanistan in 2011 the Republicans would have
crucified him. So yes, Kabul does look like Saigon in 1975, but maybe there
is just no elegant way to lose a war.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
nbc

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