On 8/18/2021 7:31 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 8:04 AM Bruno Marchal <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
/> The Talibans are worst than ISIS,/
Agreed.
/> I was hoping that America stays much longer in Afghanistan,/
After 20 years, 2448 dead American soldiers, and 2 trillion dollars
down the drain (enough to land a man on Mars, and with just another 3
or 4 trillion you could bring him back home again) I think it's time
to say enough is enough. Biden figured If they can't stand on their
own 2 feet by now they never will be able to. And as events proved,
the instant they were no longer being propped up they collapsed
instantaneously. We should've gotten out in 2011 when Osama bin Laden
was killed.
We should have gotten our in 2001 when the Taliban offered to hand over
bin Laden to a neutral country for trial.
> /and fight against the corruption which put the democracy at risk,/
Most Afghans don't seem to want democracy very much if at all, they're
certainly not willing to fight for it, but most are more than willing
to die for their crackpot religion. The USA could and did buy lots of
weapons for the Afghans, but they couldn't buy the will to fight with
them.
I find it hard to fault them. I wouldn't want to fight for a
kleptocracy in Kabul that just existed by U.S. fiat.
/> and I think that this event is again a major catastrophe for
*all* democracies./
Yes, but it's an even greater catastrophe for China. Afghanistan is on
China's doorstep and as much as the Taliban hate Americans they hate
godless communists even more, and there are about 70 million Muslims
in China. I don't think the Taliban will be shy about inciting that
Chinese minority to cause internal trouble.
/> Biden felt in a major trap left by Trump, imo./
He didn't "felt in a trap". He advised Obama to pull out in 2010.
Brent
Yes but given that the only alternative was to stay in Afghanistan
forever I think Biden made the right choice. It had to happen sometime
and whenever it happened the results would be ugly,so it might as well
happen now.
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
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