For sure John they did somewhat but they still wanted to keep the world's 
Muslims in their camp or attract more if they could. They figured or had seated 
Saudi to the Americans but wanted to expand their influence under the days of 
the Soviet Union. They were inhibited by their own foreign policy desires.

On Friday, September 3, 2021 John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:


On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 2:45 AM <[email protected]> wrote:



> To control a land you must put boots on the ground, but this would need 
> constant bombing, say of their mountain caves.


Yeah yeah bomb mountain caves, I've heard it all before. Mr. Armchair General, 
do you really think the Soviets and the Americans never thought of that?


> We could win, or we could do empire crap,


That's another question I have, how do you know when you've won the war in 
Afghanistan? When you've taken the city of Kabul? The Americans did that just a 
few weeks after they invaded the country, but it didn't help, 20 years later 
they still lost the war in Afghanistan. I have no doubt the USA could easily 
retake Kabul, but then what? Oh yeah I forgot, bomb mountain caves for another 
20 years.


 > keep the jihadists at bay, but this means constant pressure, constant 
'disrupting the ant hill.


How long is "constant", how long must this constant pressure be applied, 
another 20 years? I'd give Biden an A on his decision to pull out of a war that 
was obviously lost, but I'd give him a D on  the implementation of that plan; 
the last days of a losing war are always going to be ugly but I don't think 
they needed to be quite that ugly.  I'd only give Trump a B on his decision to 
pull out of a war that was obviously lost because he waited till year 4 of his 
administration to make that decision, Biden did it on year one of his. Like 
Biden I'd also give Trump a D for the implementation of his plan because he 
negotiated it with the Taliban without conferring with our Afghanistan allies 
and agreed to the immediate release of 5000 dangerous Taliban prisoners who on 
being released immediately went back to fighting.
 
> What ended the Mongol Empire? The answer is The Little Ice Age.


The Little Ice Age lasted from the 14th century to the middle of the 19th, 
plenty of war and conquest and religious lunacy occurred during that time that 
had nothing to do with the Mongol Empire. The Little Ice Age certainly didn't 
make the human race less violent or crazy.


>Thus, AGW might break the Jihad?
 
Maybe, or maybe continental drift will break the Jihad, but American soldiers 
dying in Afghanistan will not make the continents move faster or the world get 
hotter. By the way, you've forgotten IHA.

John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis



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