On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 8:15 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

*> For sure John they did somewhat but they still wanted to keep the
> world's Muslims in their camp or attract more if they could. They figured
> or had seated Saudi to the Americans but wanted to expand their influence
> under the days of the Soviet Union. They were inhibited by their own
> foreign policy desires.*


Huh? Who is "they"?

John K Clark






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> On Friday, September 3, 2021 John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 2:45 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > To control a land you must put boots on the ground, but this would need
> constant bombing, say of their mountain caves.
>
> Yeah yeah bomb mountain caves, I've heard it all before. Mr. Armchair
> General, do you really think the Soviets and the Americans never thought of
> that?
>
> > We could win, or we could do empire crap,
>
> That's another question I have, how do you know when you've won the war in
> Afghanistan? When you've taken the city of Kabul? The Americans did that
> just a few weeks after they invaded the country, but it didn't help, 20
> years later they still lost the war in Afghanistan. I have no doubt the USA
> could easily retake Kabul, but then what? Oh yeah I forgot, bomb mountain
> caves for another 20 years.
>
>  > keep the jihadists at bay, but this means constant pressure, constant
> 'disrupting the ant hill.
>
> How long is "constant", how long must this constant pressure be applied,
> another 20 years? I'd give Biden an A on his decision to pull out of a war
> that was obviously lost, but I'd give him a D on  the implementation of
> that plan; the last days of a losing war are always going to be ugly but I
> don't think they needed to be quite that ugly.  I'd only give Trump a B on
> his decision to pull out of a war that was obviously lost because he waited
> till year 4 of his administration to make that decision, Biden did it on
> year one of his. Like Biden I'd also give Trump a D for the implementation
> of his plan because he negotiated it with the Taliban without conferring
> with our Afghanistan allies and agreed to the immediate release of 5000
> dangerous Taliban prisoners who on being released immediately went back to
> fighting.
>
> > What ended the Mongol Empire? The answer is The Little Ice Age.
>
> The Little Ice Age lasted from the 14th century to the middle of the 19th,
> plenty of war and conquest and religious lunacy occurred during that time
> that had nothing to do with the Mongol Empire. The Little Ice Age certainly
> didn't make the human race less violent or crazy.
>
> >Thus, AGW might break the Jihad?
>
> Maybe, or maybe continental drift will break the Jihad, but American
> soldiers dying in Afghanistan will not make the continents move faster or
> the world get hotter. By the way, you've forgotten IHA.
>
> John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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