On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 3:41 AM smitra <smi...@zonnet.nl> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > *> It's the fact that Bob knows that he has a copy who found the > oppositespin and in that sector the state of Alice is different that makes > thisnot a dynamical non-local effect. But if collapse is real and the > otherBob does not exist, then there is a real fundamental problem with > thisnon-locality. Note that we don't need to get into the > Bell-typecorrelations here, these are only relevant to prove that the > randomresults after a measurement cannot be due local hidden variables. > Giventhat this is an established experimental fact we can just assume this > itbe true. So, Bob collapsing not just his own spin but also Alice's spinis > a problem if the collapse is real. But in the MWI there is nocollapse, all > the other sectors objectively exist, it's just that hisand Alice's sector > are correlated with all non-local effects havingarisen via local dynamics.* Yes, and all that is possible because Many Worlds is local but not realistic, in comparison to something like Pilot Wave Theory which is realistic but not local, or Shut Up And Calculate which is, .... well..., adherence to that viewpoint insist I'm not allowed to say, or even think about, what it is. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> i1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2rECqPBz1LsTh2iRWMLNx4RzVMhrxg6_XHKnfGprDC8g%40mail.gmail.com.
