On 5/9/2022 3:15 AM, John Clark wrote:

On Sun, May 8, 2022 at 6:34 PM Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com>wrote:/> The Everett program is to say that the SE is all that there is -- it explains everything. /No! The Everett program says the only assumption Quantum Mechanicsneeds is that the Schrodinger Equation means what it says, and nobodyin their right mind thinks Quantum Mechanics as it currently exists,or the Schrodinger Equation, describes gravity./> That is clearly false (no Born rule in the SE), /The Born Rule is not an assumption nor is it a theory, it is anexperimentally derived fact, a fact that EVERY quantum interpretationmakes use of./> so it might be wise to doubt the universal application of the SE./Without Schrodinger's Equation there could be no quantum wavefunction, and without the quantum wave function there could be no BornRule, and without the Born Rule there could be no Quantum Mechanics.And Quantum Mechanics is the most universally applicable idea in allof science, it works on everything except gravity, so it might be wiseto keep it around.

`We keep Newtonian mechanics around too. That doesn't mean nothing`

`better can be found. Schroedinger's equation isn't even the only form`

`of QM. There are also transactional and path integral forms and`

`epistemic forms like QBism. And there are also slightly different`

`theories like Adler's emergent QM and explicit collapse theories like`

`GRW. All of which are the same theory at the level of "might be wise to`

`keep around."`

Brent

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