On 9/1/2022 8:46 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 11:09 AM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net>
wrote:
/> Yes, I do suspect that the "basket of deplorables" comment cost
her the election. It was a stupid and mean thing to say,/
It may or may not have been mean but it was certainly accurate, and if
it was stupid then it was because it's stupid to tell the truth if
you're campaigning for political office.
/> you still don't understand who voted for Trump and why they
voted for Trump./
I know who voted for Trump but I still don't know why, that's not
because of lack of effort on my part, I've asked them over and over
and over again but I've yet to receive a coherentanswer.
So far as I've been able to ascertain, they voted for him because of
what they were against. They were against immigrants, the educated,
gays, browns, blacks, jews, and most of all *government*. Since Reagan
the fundamental message of the Republican party has been, "Government is
bad. Government is oppressing you. Government can do nothing right.
Free enterprise means free of government. Corporations can do it
better." And Mitch McConnell keeps proving them right.
>> Any crimes Hillary Clinton committed
were ridiculouslytrivial compared with the treason committed
by Trump,such as staging a coup d'état and trying to establish
a dictatorship.
/> Granted, but is this really the standard you want to uphold?/
You may think that avoiding dictatorshipis a low bar to clear but
sometimes I feel like it is an impossibly high one. Avoiding a bad
president is far more important than electing a good one because there
is a limit to the amount of good a president can do but there is no
bottom to bad.
/> She had a fucking email server installed in her bathroom/
Big fucking deal! I'm talking about nullifying a presidential
election, keeping records that were beyond top secret in a cardboard
box in a unsecured room at a golf club, bungling a pandemic response,
increasing the likelihood of Iran developing a nuclear bomb, depriving
women of having autonomy over their own body, and staging an
unsuccessful coup d'état. And you're still worried about Hillary
Clinton's email server!
/> Agreed, but the only way to prevent that scenario is to
mobilize the people who are not into batshit ideas to bother
voting. Writing these things might help you process your feelings
but it doesn't help with anything./
You mean I will not be able to single-handedly save the nation with my
posts?! I am crushed!!
> /The batshit crazy who vote for Trump will not be less batshit in
2022, but there is a very good chance that the non-batshit will be
discouraged if not provided with someone remotely inspiring./
Bidenlacks showmanship but he is not crazy nor is he cruel,and if he
is not brilliant he is at least reasonably competent.
In 2024, our Governor, Gavin Newsom, may run for President. He's smart,
rich, and much younger and more dynamic than Biden, or Harris.
Brent
/> That is that the reality you must face, but I know you will not
(meaning the highly engaged democrats), and that is why I strongly
suspect that Trump will be president again in 2024./
Not if Trump is in prison, and if I had 5 documents in a cardboard box
in my house marked "Top Secret (TS/SCI)" that's where I'd be.
John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
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