Am Do, 1. Sep 2022, um 16:33, schrieb John Clark: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2022 at 8:58 AM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net> wrote: > >> *__* >> *> Hillary Clinton was a horrible candidate.* > > Yes she was a poor campaigner and made the rookie blunder of telling the > truth by referring to Trump supporters as "*a basket of deplorables*", > successful politicians seldom tell the truth. Nevertheless in 2016 more > people voted for her than voted for Donald Trump.
Yes, I do suspect that the "basket of deplorables" comment cost her the election. It was a stupid and mean thing to say, and being stupid and mean was the strong suit of of her adversary. Why do it? Because she was too arrogant to understand that she needed someone who knew what they were doing to run her campaign. Even if she knew that cosmopolitan middle-class voters were her target audience, she didn't spend one second reflecting on the fact that even cosmopolitan middle-class voters have families that they do not necessarily like having insulted. > >> *> She came off as entitled, unlikable and transparently on the side of big >> money and the powerful.* > > Unlike billionaire Donald Trump who inherited his money from his daddy and > was transparently lovable and on the side of the poor and downtrodden such as > himself. We know that Trump is one of the downtrodden because the billionaire > is constantly reminding us how the world has treated him so unfairly. Yes, we all know this is true. And you still don't understand who voted for Trump and why they voted for Trump. These people would never vote for Hillary Clinton. The trick to win the election would be to convince the people who *could* vote for Hillary Clinton to bother doing it. And that is an totally different strategy than the one that Trump could afford, the strategy of being outright obscene. > > >> *> And just because Trump is basically a gangster, doesn't mean that the >> email server thing should be overlooked.* > > Any crimes Hillary Clinton committed were ridiculously trivial compared with > the treason committed by Trump, such as staging a coup d'état and trying to > establish a dictatorship. Granted, but is this really the standard you want to uphold? She had a fucking email server installed in her bathroom so that she could escape scrutiny. Why was she so invested in escaping scrutiny? What was she hiding? Doesn't this bother you? You have many people in the Democrat Party who, by the way, are below retirement age, who do not have such skeletons in their closets. Why not them? > >> *> My modest proposal to the Democrat Party: come up with candidates that >> people actually feel excited to go vote for. Biden won for being "not >> Trump".* > > Biden has done more than that but in my opinion being "not Trump '' would've > been enough because there are very few issues more important than stopping > Trump from turning the USA into a totalitarian state. Agreed, but this attitude will get Trump elected again. > >> *> Yes, the Republican party is batshit crazy and they seem to have embraced >> being as mean and cruel as possible as their prime directive. That is a >> given.* > > And a cruel man who is also batshit crazy is most certainly NOT somebody who > should have access to the nuclear button. Agreed, but the only way to prevent that scenario is to mobilize the people who are not into batshit ideas to bother voting. Writing these things might help you process your feelings but it doesn't help with anything. > >> > *But*** [...] > > But? *BUT?!* Yes, but. The batshit crazy who vote for Trump will not be less batshit in 2022, but there is a very good chance that the non-batshit will be discouraged if not provided with someone remotely inspiring. That is that the reality you must face, but I know you will not (meaning the highly engaged democrats), and that is why I strongly suspect that Trump will be president again in 2024. And I assure you that I dread that outcome. Telmo > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > tub > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0q8DSMzea%3DtjoJJVYKxHy9AFC3y1LOEf7WOFHgQ34%3DeA%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0q8DSMzea%3DtjoJJVYKxHy9AFC3y1LOEf7WOFHgQ34%3DeA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/d5e597c8-0ad2-459b-a5da-0694035f0e65%40www.fastmail.com.
