The video John shared is worth watching. This is significant. It is now
solving complex math problems which requires a long sequence of steps.

Over-fitting is less of an issue here because it's trivial to write a
sentence that's never before been written by any human in history.

You can tweak the parameters of the problem to guarantee it's a problem it
has never before been seen, and it can still solve it.

You can choose to wait for the academic write ups to come out a few months
down the line but by then things will have advanced another few levels from
where we are today.

I think it's worth paying attention to the latest results, even if it means
having to watch some YouTube videos.

Jason


On Mon, Mar 20, 2023, 9:19 AM John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 7:00 AM Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.net>
> wrote:
>
> >* I want to discuss scientific research and peer-reviews academic
>> articles, but you want me to get excited about YouTube clickbait instead.
>> What happened to you John?*
>>
>
> I'll tell you exactly what happened to me, last Tuesday happened to me.
> And by the way, refusing to look at something does not make it go away.
>
> GPT-4 solving hard riddles <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoyqRiGL4pg>
>
> *> You are SUPER EXCITED abou ChatGPT but you do not give a shit about the
>> fundamentals of machine learning*
>>
>
> You are absolutely correct. When it comes to judging it's intelligence I
> don't give a shit about how GPT4 works, *I CARE ABOUT WHAT GPT4 DOES*
> because behavior is the only way we have of judging the intelligence of our
> fellow human beings, and that is also the only way we have of judging the
> intelligence of a computer program. All I'm saying is that regardless of
> how something works, if it's behaving intelligently then it's intelligent.
> That's true for people and it's also true for computers, and I think it's
> bizarre that some people think that is a controversial statement.
>
> > *Human beings can form coherent memories and are capable of long-term
>> goals, strategy and slow thinking -- the Turing complete kind.*
>>
>
> All computers are Turing Machines so obviously they are also Turing
> complete.
>
> * > I have even seen people now claim  that ChatGPT is good at chess. It
>> is incredibly good at chess given that it is a language model trained with
>> chess books*
>>
>
> Wow, that's a remarkably weak argument, computers have had the ability to
> beat any human being at chess for a quarter of a century!  It would be
> trivially easy for GPT4 to offload the problem to AlphaZero which can start
> with zero knowledge of chess and after an hour or two of thinking about it
> play the game at a superhuman level. Then for GPT4 playing chess  (or any
> board game) at a super human level would be a simple reflex just as for us
> breathing is a simple reflex.
>
>
>> > * It is capable of navigating a min-max tree? Of course not, because
>> it lacks recurrence. It cannot possibly win against older generation AIs*
>>
>
> The discovery of transformer Technology in 2017 was enormously important,
> but it would be silly to say that is the only technique that an AI is
> allowed to use.
>
> *>you want to convince me that ChatGPT is the answer to everything.*
>>
>
> Don't be ridiculous!
>
> >
>> *Ok, maybe you are right and I am crazy.*
>>
>
> Yeah maybe.
>
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>
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