On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:46 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 10:01, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > *T**here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no
>>> behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical
>>> possibility of philosophical zombies.*
>>
>>
>> Assuming that is true and assuming that you yourself are not a
>> philosophical zombie, how do you suppose random mutation and natural
>> selection manage to produce you?
>>
>
> It couldn't, which supports the idea that philosophical zombies are
> impossible, or equivalently that phenomenal consciousness reduces to the
> behavioural manifestations of consciousness, such as awareness of self and
> environment.
>

In fasct, it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be
produced by natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the
possibility that such beings could be produced artificially; eg. via AI.

Bruce

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