Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 11:10, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:46 AM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 10:01, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > *T**here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no >>>> behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical >>>> possibility of philosophical zombies.* >>> >>> >>> Assuming that is true and assuming that you yourself are not a >>> philosophical zombie, how do you suppose random mutation and natural >>> selection manage to produce you? >>> >> >> It couldn't, which supports the idea that philosophical zombies are >> impossible, or equivalently that phenomenal consciousness reduces to the >> behavioural manifestations of consciousness, such as awareness of self and >> environment. >> > > In fasct, it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be > produced by natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the > possibility that such beings could be produced artificially; eg. via AI. > That is strictly true, but it would entail that consciousness is some sort of side-effect peculiar to organic chemistry (or whatever the special ingredient is), and not a consequence of intelligent behaviour. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypV0L4WE%3DeryNjy_%3Dj7FZ%3DRFkw09AdVEPxVCjFQVwBaoQw%40mail.gmail.com.

