Stathis Papaioannou
On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 11:10, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 10:46 AM Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 at 10:01, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 5:51 PM Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > *T**here is yet another level, phenomenal consciousness, which has no >>>> behavioural manifestations whatsoever, allowing for the theoretical >>>> possibility of philosophical zombies.* >>> >>> >>> Assuming that is true and assuming that you yourself are not a >>> philosophical zombie, how do you suppose random mutation and natural >>> selection manage to produce you? >>> >> >> It couldn't, which supports the idea that philosophical zombies are >> impossible, or equivalently that phenomenal consciousness reduces to the >> behavioural manifestations of consciousness, such as awareness of self and >> environment. >> > > In fasct, it supports the idea that philosophical zombies could not be > produced by natural (Darwinian) selection. But it say nothing about the > possibility that such beings could be produced artificially; eg. via AI. > That is strictly true, but it would entail that consciousness is some sort of side-effect peculiar to organic chemistry (or whatever the special ingredient is), and not a consequence of intelligent behaviour. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAH%3D2ypV0L4WE%3DeryNjy_%3Dj7FZ%3DRFkw09AdVEPxVCjFQVwBaoQw%40mail.gmail.com.
