On Monday, February 24, 2025 at 10:56:56 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote:
On 2/24/2025 9:18 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Monday, February 24, 2025 at 3:47:05 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/24/2025 8:09 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 23, 2025 at 11:26:32 PM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 23, 2025 at 9:38:50 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: On 2/23/2025 6:18 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, February 23, 2025 at 5:58:51 PM UTC-7 Brent Meeker wrote: Sir Roger readily admits that there is no singularity, in spite of his theorem. His theorem applies to GR without consideration of quantum mechanics. Brent There's no guarantee that a quantum theory of gravity will ever be developed. What then? AG We've done without one for 300,000yrs. Life goes on. Brent I think we can *rule* out a singularity without invoking quantum gravity. A singularity in the interior of a BH, would represent an inherent contradiction, and thus not be physically realizable. I speculate a repulsive fifth force of Nature that would prevent the contracting mass to achieve zero volume. AG Brent; what do you think of my "proof" that a BH cannot have a singularity in its interior? If it did, it couldn't be physically real! AG I agree with it. Physical things like curvature, can't be infinite. Brent So, Penrose and Hawking left us twisting in the wind, while we wait for a quantum of theory of gravity, when the answer was in front of their respective noses. AG I'd say the question was in front of their noses. We don't know the answer to how general relative merges with quantum mechanics. Brent You're too kind. Penrose and Hawking were addressing whether BH's have singularities, and they fell miserably short. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/83e1cb3a-3fbe-438c-b221-8a217c6fee83n%40googlegroups.com.
