You have one like this for disclaimers. I know the basics why not. I would like to see your reasons of why disclaimers are bad.


From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Brick level backups Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 03:19:25 -0700

I probably should reread this, but thwas my answer to this question
A year ago - plus an added point.

Why not to do Brick Level Backups:

1) They take a loooong time. At my last position, the priv.edb on
several Exchange servers was huge with several mailboxes exceeding
2GB. Backup windows of 'July' is not acceptible nor necessary.

2) Brick Level break SIS in the process. At a previous employer we
had an SIS ratio of 4 (lots of little daily cash spreadsheets and the
like getting sent to DL's). This means that a BLB backup uses as much
as 4 times the total tape. Now I need an autoloader to take care of
the boxes of tapes required each night.

3) You can't perform a full server restore to point of failure with
brick level backups. You have to actually perform additional full
online backups as well to allow for full disaster recovery. More
tapes. More time. More money.

4) A restore of several mailboxes from BLB's will cause the store to
grow because of no SIS. If my SIS ratio is 2 and some disaster leaves
me with only brick-level, my restore will double the size of the priv.

5) The redundant backups for brick level lower the overall performance
of your exchange server as backups compete with users for CPU cycles
and disk reads. It is also additional and unnecessary wear and tear
on tape drives.

6) Brick Level Backups do not backup items in deleted item retention.
As my users (for email anyway) have always been of the educated
variety, they know and use deleted item recovery as needed.

7) A restore of a mailbox is seldom needed. (Probably the only
instance is inadvertant deletion by an administrator in Exchange5.5)
With deleted item retention set to a reasonable 30 days or so, and
with deleted mailboxes retained in Exchange2000, brick level backups
fall in the category of a waste of time and resources.

8) Backups should not be a helpdesk support option. They are a
disaster recovery requirement. With all that tape and time, the
convenience of having someone restore my mailbox is so simple I can be
more careless with my email. I can always get my info restored.  The
Potential for user complacency because we can always restore uses
Valuable IT time and resources.

9) Yes, it's true. For me, I have only done this using ArcServeIT.
Because of comments here in this and other forums, CA took the
Exchange agent back to the lab and did some more fixing on it. For me
it was too little too late. Basically, BLB's are not perfect. Data
is not perfectly recreated through the restore process. Problems
included header info missing, digitally signed emails corrupt,
attachments missing.

10) Many, many more reputable and experienced people have shared their
horror stories over and over in this and other forums and newsgroups.
So much so that I was relieved to learn in 1998 that it wasn't just me
that felt this way. The people that have expressed this opinion I
hold in high regard and certainly owe it to myself to try to
understand why the concensus is for or against something.

11) Microsoft provides the utility ExMerge which can be used to backup
a single mailbox to .pst if necessary. I use this as the last step
before deleting a users mailbox after (s)he have left the company. It
is a simplified, granular alternative for certain circumstances.

12) Exchange2003 allows for a disaster recovery storage group to allow
Production restores without a recovery server.

The above may not all apply to you.

Would you like to see the list against the use of 'confidentiality
disclaimers'?

William



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Lloyd
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 2:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hi guys,
I just wanted to know why are brick level backups a bad idea. I know why pst
files are.
I can only imagine is that they take forever to complete, and not always all
of them.

Sorry if this has been discussed before but i do need some reasoning for my
bosses.

I know Ed hate em


Thnks


David


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