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-----Original Message----- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:13 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Greg, please crawl back under your rock and die now. We REALLY REALLY REALLY do not care about your position on this or ANY other issue anymore. You have stated it 50 times now so PLEASE move on! This was amusing at first, but this silly ass thread was finally starting to die and now you go and start it again with this bloody drivel. JUST STOP POSTING IT HERE! That's all any of us want. This is the Exchange Admin List. Not the IT Ethics list. Go back to your rock, create the IT Ethics list, and then post whatever the hell you like THERE! I might even be inclined to subscribe and post my thoughts on the matter. YOUR POST DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS LIST! Miles ------------------------------ Miles Holt, MCP Network Engineer Summit Marketing [EMAIL PROTECTED] 770-303-0426 ------------------------------ "Show me a completely smooth operation and I'll show you someone who's covering mistakes. Real boats rock." - Frank Herbert, "Chapterhouse:Dune" -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated that every time I post something to this list, they bring it up. In the interests of trying to move past this, you can get your fix of my crazed views on ethics in the form of a free monthly newsletter, The IT Ethics Newsletter. Details can be found at http://www.infonition.com/ethics I have not yet covered the Conflict of Interest topic but I'm sure that it will come up eventually. Until then, here is how I see the two sides. Greg: Accepting direct gifts from third parties, especially significant gifts such as large dollar items and titles, presents a real or perceived conflict of interest between an IT professional's client (either the customer or company that he or she works for) and that third party. This is why companies have limits on the type and dollar amount of gifts that employees can accept from third parties. Because MVP is primarily a title and titles are priceless, there are obvious grounds for a potential conflict of interest. And it does not matter if the conflict of interest is real or perceived. The whole point of ethics and conflict of interest rules is to help keep people from getting into ethical trouble and to remove even the specter or impropriety. The Other Side: The MVP title is not unethical. In fact, it does not matter what you do or who you accept gifts from or what the type or dollar amount of those gifts, it will never, ever constitute a conflict of interest. Furthermore, there is really no such thing as a "conflict of interest". This whole "conflict of interest" nonsense is, in fact, an evil plot propagated by the secretive Illuminati. Obviously, the Illuminati have corrupted Greg's brain and the brains of all of the corporations that have rules against accepting gifts. Don't become another victim! Even if God himself comes down and points out that something is obviously a potential conflict of interest, argue with God because the Illuminati have obviously gotten to him. _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
