Ban him? Why? I hold him single handedly responsible for this lists entertainment value surpassing that of its technical value.
-heath -----Original Message----- From: Erik L. Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 7:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Why not ban him? Surely there is a anti-spam filter on this list? This person seems to be interested in 'stoking' the fires of a few so confrontation may incur. Erik L. Vesneski Intel Lead - WCDC/ISO www.pmigroup.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Wrong. You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights, I finish them. > So why did you feel the need to change the thread to post the exact > same nonsense you've been spouting all along? Don't say that we keep > bringing this up. All I in the second post in the original thread was > that I'm a "vendor whore". You took over and started with your silly, > unjustified position. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:34 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics > > OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this > odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated > that every time I post something to this list, they bring it up. In > the interests of trying to move past this, you can get your fix of my > crazed views on ethics in the form of a free monthly newsletter, The > IT Ethics Newsletter. > > Details can be found at http://www.infonition.com/ethics > > I have not yet covered the Conflict of Interest topic but I'm sure > that it will come up eventually. Until then, here is how I see the two > sides. > > Greg: > Accepting direct gifts from third parties, especially significant > gifts such as large dollar items and titles, presents a real or > perceived conflict of interest between an IT professional's client > (either the customer or company that he or she works for) and that > third party. This is why companies have limits on the type and dollar > amount of gifts that employees can accept from third parties. Because > MVP is primarily a title and titles are priceless, there are obvious > grounds for a potential conflict of interest. And it does not matter > if the conflict of interest is real or perceived. The whole point of > ethics and conflict of interest rules is to help keep people from > getting into ethical trouble and to remove even the specter or > impropriety. > > The Other Side: > The MVP title is not unethical. In fact, it does not matter what you > do or who you accept gifts from or what the type or dollar amount of > those gifts, it will never, ever constitute a conflict of interest. > Furthermore, there is really no such thing as a "conflict of > interest". This whole "conflict of interest" nonsense is, in fact, an > evil plot propagated by the secretive Illuminati. Obviously, the > Illuminati have corrupted Greg's brain and the brains of all of the > corporations that have rules against accepting gifts. Don't become > another victim! Even if God himself comes down and points out that > something is obviously a potential conflict of interest, argue with > God because the Illuminati have obviously gotten to him. > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode > =&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
