Why not ban him?  Surely there is a anti-spam filter on this list?

This person seems to be interested in 'stoking' the fires of a few so
confrontation may incur.  

Erik L. Vesneski 
Intel Lead - WCDC/ISO 
www.pmigroup.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 6:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics


Wrong. You brought it up by throwing stones my way. I don't pick fights,
I finish them.

> So why did you feel the need to change the thread to post the exact 
> same nonsense you've been spouting all along?  Don't say that we keep 
> bringing this up.  All I in the second post in the original thread was

> that I'm a "vendor whore".  You took over and started with your silly,

> unjustified position.
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 7:34 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics
> 
> OK, for some reason beyond my comprehension people seem to have this 
> odd fascination with my views on ethics in IT. They are so fascinated 
> that every time I post something to this list, they bring it up. In 
> the interests of trying to move past this, you can get your fix of my 
> crazed views on ethics in the form of a free monthly newsletter, The 
> IT Ethics Newsletter.
> 
> Details can be found at http://www.infonition.com/ethics
> 
> I have not yet covered the Conflict of Interest topic but I'm sure 
> that it will come up eventually. Until then, here is how I see the two

> sides.
> 
> Greg:
> Accepting direct gifts from third parties, especially significant 
> gifts such as large dollar items and titles, presents a real or 
> perceived conflict of interest between an IT professional's client 
> (either the customer or company that he or she works for) and that 
> third party. This is why companies have limits on the type and dollar 
> amount of gifts that employees can accept from third parties. Because 
> MVP is primarily a title and titles are priceless, there are obvious 
> grounds for a potential conflict of interest. And it does not matter 
> if the conflict of interest is real or perceived. The whole point of 
> ethics and conflict of interest rules is to help keep people from 
> getting into ethical trouble and to remove even the specter or 
> impropriety.
> 
> The Other Side:
> The MVP title is not unethical. In fact, it does not matter what you 
> do or who you accept gifts from or what the type or dollar amount of 
> those gifts, it will never, ever constitute a conflict of interest. 
> Furthermore, there is really no such thing as a "conflict of 
> interest". This whole "conflict of interest" nonsense is, in fact, an 
> evil plot propagated by the secretive Illuminati. Obviously, the 
> Illuminati have corrupted Greg's brain and the brains of all of the 
> corporations that have rules against accepting gifts. Don't become 
> another victim! Even if God himself comes down and points out that 
> something is obviously a potential conflict of interest, argue with 
> God because the Illuminati have obviously gotten to him.
> 
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