No question that the CVT is the better alternative for solo.  I do not want
to replace the 500cc 2 stroke, I want to ADD an additional 4 stroke with
trans that turns the same lap time as the current best F500.  Then we get
the best of both worlds, the guys that like the 2 stroke CVT & the guys that
want to shift.  Who cares as long as we can grow as a class.

 
Thanks ... Jay Novak
 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck
Voboril
Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2006 2:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [F500] engines

Like DSR, there could be equality between 2-stroke CVT and 4-stoke w. tranny

and everyone could be happy ('cept the ones who lose most of the time :->)

  SCCA is also sorta making it work between different 4-strokes like Zetec 
and Pinto.

There is only about a 10% displacement increase for 4-strokes in DSR (1000 
vs 900)

It might have to be a 20% delta in F500/? to get up to a common MC or ATV 
4-stroke size.

"Forumla 56" for 500 and 600cc motors?


Just as an aside, not wanting to restart the old agruments (please muffle 
thyself Chris!), I have doubts that shifting makes the class any more 
attractive in the long run.

In something as fast paced as a Solo event, shifting shore lacks appeal.

Many F125 guys have commented on how they wish they had my car with no 
shifting. I blow by    a lot of them when we are lined up together at the 
ProSolos.

In straight line and long corner dominated road couse, one could probably 
live with the annoyance of shifting :->.

Noise also can't be an issue. 2-strokes can be just as quiet, perhaps 
quieter taking advantage of the constant RPM provided by a CVT.

So..please be careful to not throw the baby out with the dishwater.


Chuck





>From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [F500] engines
>Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 08:43:11 -0400
>
>I am starting this thread to simply start a dialog on the subject of
>alternative drive trains, so do not send the assassins.
>
>I am of the opinion that we need a 4 stroke engine with a conventional
>transmission for our class to survive.  I would be happy with a 2 stroke
>with a transmission but I do not think there is a production engine
>available.
>
>I am not saying that we eliminate the 500cc w/CVT combination, but only 
>that
>we have a competitive alternative engine that has a conventional 6 speed
>transmission.
>
>I say this because we need to generate lots of new interest in F500 or we
>have a good chance of losing our national status in a few years.
>
>Thanks ... Jay Novak
>
>
>
>
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