Yes the vacuum pump with a chaffed diaphragm can both fill the float bowls
and flood the crankcase.  I chased that very situation with my Kawasaki way
back when....blew two race weekends until I figured it out.  Engine would
actually run with the carb on the vacuum port side removed from its mounting
boot. 


Chuck McAbee
SEDIV #16

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth
Kirkland
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 10:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [F500] Re-firing rebuilt 494--Update

Chuck,

I'm saving starting fluid for an absolute, drop dead, last resort. I have a
can, but haven't used it yet.

The motor has a vacuum fuel pump. I'm getting fuel to the carbs. Would a
chafed diaphragm fill the carb float bowls AND flood the crankcase through
the pulse port?

Kenneth

--- "McAbee, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> What kind if fuel pump is being used....vacuum or electric.
> 
> Is ether being used for starting fluid?  If so you my be running 
> several revolutions on the ether and then starving for fuel because it 
> is not being supplied from  the pump.
> 
> Batteries can fail (ground out internally) from our engines vibrations 
> over time causing the electric fuel pump to quit....the vibrations 
> stop and the battery works again.
> 
> Vacuum pumps can fail because of a failed pump diaphragm...there can 
> be a 'catastrophic' diaphragm failure where nothing gets pumped, or 
> there can be a maddening chaffed diaphragm where the vacuum from the 
> crankcase that operates the pump draws fuel through the diaphragm and 
> floods the crankcase.
> 
> I takes 3 things to make the engine run....Fuel, air and a properly 
> timed spark.
> 
> 
> Chuck McAbee
> SEDIV #16
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Kenneth
> Kirkland
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 5:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [F500] Re-firing rebuilt 494--Update
> 
> Hello all!!
> 
> Thanks again for all of the ideas on re-firing the motor.
> 
> Out of semi-desperation, I installed 2 brand new carbs on the motor. 
> It seems to have helped, but it's still not starting and running. It's 
> more consistent about firing through 2 or 3 revolutions before it 
> stops.
> Different throttle settings and different idle air mixture settings 
> don't seem to help or hurt much.
> 
> Has anyone seen a similar situation?
> 
> Kenneth Kirkland
> #18 MiDiv / Arkansas Region (77)
> 1991 KBS Mk. V
> www.kirklandracing.com
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