Captain Eddie, The speed/cost ratio is off the charts on these cars. Fast and cheap. With that in mind, I don't see much of an incentive to make changes, unless the changes made them easier to maintain and less expensive. I wouldn't mind spending money on changing the exhaust note though. Maybe I could wire in a horn to the
As far as the group of racers is concerned, I can't even begin to explain how lucky I am to be involved with the F500 group here in Northern California. The support of Don, Carl and Jeff is invaluable. Plus, they're fun to be around. Unrelated to your message, I think the addition of a forum for f500 folks would be a step in the right direction. I'd chip in $25 if needed. In the long run, I'd easily get more than 100x that back in useful information. George ----- Original Message ----- From: "edward capullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. > George > Those are good compelling reasons. I AM older than dirt. I don't know Don > Clar so I cant say if I'm older but I will say I am retired on a fixed > income so pennies are more important to me now than when I was racing S2000 > in my forties. F500 is the lowest cost way to go fast. the good part about > retirement is that I can spend all day trading in the stock market ( which > is pretty much how I financed all my road racing career) or working on the > car an attending any race I want to go to. > It is great not to have to be at work on Monday morning (or use up vacation > time) Welcome to the F500 ranks. they seem to be a great group. > Ed Capullo > > > >From: "george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [email protected] > >To: <[email protected]> > >Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:23:57 -0800 > > > >Captain Eddie, > > > >There's no reason to be gentle. I don't care enough to bothered by it. > > > >Don't confuse my personal opinion of the noise maker with the comments I > >hear OTHERS make. There's a big difference. I already own one and will be > >racing it this year. Yet that adds only one person to the F500 ranks. > > > >Why did I buy one? They're inexpensive and more importantly, I have a great > >group to race and hang out with here on the left coast. Plus, I have ear > >plugs. > > > >So, you used to race front engine rail? Are you older than dirt or the just > >the same age as Don Clar? > > > >George > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "edward capullo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 6:45 AM > >Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. > > > > > > > George > > > You are new so I am going to be gentle. Did you buy the car to rev up > >the > > > motor and listen to it or to RACE it? Who gives a [EMAIL PROTECTED] what > > > it sounds > >like > > > if you are having fun and winning races? If you are not in it to have > >fun > > > and win then why are you in racing? I have been in various kinds of > >racing > > > since 1960 and have driven fully muffled cars to wide open > >rails.(Nothing > > > will ever top the sound of the eight short pipes in front of me when I > >had > > > my front-engined rail not counting the sound of the other guy's eight > >pipes > > > in the next lane..just ask "Q") I believe that the "compelling reasons" > >that > > > had you decide on the F500 probably centered around cost effectiveness > >(bang > > > for the buck) > > > There is just no way to go as fast for so little money in any other > >class. > > > So DRIVE the car and let others worry about what it sounds > >like...especially > > > when you are PASSING them. > > > Capt. Eddie > > > > > > >From: "george" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected] > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. > > > >Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 05:55:19 -0800 > > > > > > > >Let me choose different words then in order to prevent a comparison to > >cars > > > >that don't exist when I start up my F500 at the racetrack. > > > > > > > >Chuck, my comments are for the list to seriously consider and not > >directed > > > >at you. > > > > > > > >The exhaust note of the F500 sounds silly and stupid. The only thing > >worse > > > >is a mosquito buzzing your ear at 2 in the morning on a hot summer > >night. > > > >The exhaust sound was the ONLY reason why I held off from buying one > >over > > > >the last 3 years. There are other compelling reasons why ended up > >buying > > > >one, but I still can't stand the sound of it. Aside from that, I am > >still > > > >one of the new four that will be racing F500 on the west coast. > > > > > > > >Since the question was asked how to increase the numbers of the class, > >I > > > >thought I'd offer an "outsider's" opinion regarding the biggest reason > >why > > > >most folks I know have no interest in buying one: Race cars should > >sound > > > >"cool." The exhaust note of the F500 isn't cool. Why do you think kids > >& > > > >grown ups rev up engines? It sounds cool. When's the last time you > >heard > >a > > > >field of F500 revving up their engines to show them off? IMO, they > >don't > > > >because it would sound like a gathering of lumberjacks revving up chain > > > >saws > > > >because there's nothing better to do if you're holding a chain saw and > >not > > > >cutting wood. Chain saws are not race cars and if you wanted to buy a > >race > > > >car, why buy one that has a chain saw strapped to the rear of it? > > > > > > > >Hopefully I didn't offend anyone. See you at the track > > > > > > > >George > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "McAbee, Chuck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <[email protected]> > > > >Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:25 PM > > > >Subject: RE: [F500] Class survival. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the bigger question is .....What does a race car sound like? > > > > > > > > > > In SCCA we run everything from Showroom Stock to 5 Liter GT-1 cars > >and > > > > > everything in between, hitting most of the notes between near > >silence > > > > > and the bass sounds of the Big Bores. I know we all can pick either > > > > > classes or particular cars and say they either don't sound like a > >race > > > > > car or they just plain sound lousy. Truth be told, to me, F1 cars > >no > > > > > longer sound like race cars....they sound like sewing machines on > > > > > steroids with a mega sound system, but they don't sound like an > >internal > > > > > combustion engine; at 20K RPM how could they. > > > > > > > > > > While I may be nearing the age of dirt, I can recall many > >devastatingly > > > > > quick cars the really didn't sound like race cars - the CART cars in > >the > > > > > 70's & 80's with the Turbo's acting like mufflers as far as sound > > > > > quality was concerned. The famous Porsche 917-30KL with it's twin > >turbo > > > > > 5.4L engine didn't really sound like a 'racecar'; but it sure could > > > > > perform. > > > > > > > > > > Maybe someone could design a pipe that would drop our exhaust sound > >4 > >or > > > > > 5 octaves? > > > > > > > > > > We are what we are! Now let's get the cars out of the garage and go > > > > > racing. With any kind of luck, I'll be at Road Atlanta in 2 weeks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck McAbee > > > > > SEDIV #16 > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >george > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2007 12:41 AM > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > Subject: Re: [F500] Class survival. > > > > > > > > > > I'm new to F500 racing and I think there's only one problem with the > > > > > racecar: > > > > > > > > > > It doesn't sound like a racecar. > > > > > > > > > > Any other change is irrelevant IMO because if it doesn't sound like > >a > > > > > racecar, no one would if it had coilovers, a 6 speed transmission > >with > > > > > reverse, 13" tires, and a 5 bazzilion cc motor that ran on water. > > > > > > > > > > George > > > > > the new guy that's simple minded > > > > > _ > > > > > ----------------------------------------- > > > > > This email transmission and any accompanying attachments may > > > > > contain CSX privileged and confidential information intended only > > > > > for the use of the intended addressee. 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