Still having a hard time with the motor pricing. Course it was without any header or muffler system, too. That could explain some of it.

Whats a Rotax motor going for these days? Add about $500 for a new CVT setup (250+250) and add $450+ $200 for pipes and mufflers.

A friend had his Suzuki Hayabusa fall over and it cost $3500+ to have the complete exhaust system replaced along with 2 rear bodywork pieces. Some labor in there. But it was all bolt-on.

I have his old slightly bent system here at home to study. Really neat header system with all sorts of crossover tubes, chambers, Y's, and mufflers.

I'm estimating that a more simple racing header and muffler system for a F600 would still have to cost at least $1500.


Chuck





From: "Chuck Voboril" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [F500] 600cc engine in Rakavon
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2007 19:42:24 -0700

Jay,
Sounds pretty good.

Going to turn it around? :-> or set it up sideways like Ed Dickensen did in his DSR?

Seriously, does it include a 6 spd transmission and can anyone buy one for that price?
Suppose one needed 5 of them at once from the factory?

Why is it so much cheaper than a new 1000cc motor?


Chuck





From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: [F500] 600cc engine in Rakavon
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 22:34:31 -0400

The engine is the latest 06-07 (same engine both years)

It is FI & comes complete with the injection system, ECU, airbox, wireing,
fuel pump etc.

Thanks ... Jay Novak


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Subject: RE: [F500] 600cc engine in Rakavon


Nice to see someone taking a step to find out waht might work.

Jay, what year is that motor and does it have carbs or FI?

Chuck





>From: "Jay Novak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: [F500] 600cc engine in Rakavon
>Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 19:45:05 -0400
>
>(also posted on the eformulacars forum)
>
>I have decided to make a major committment (for me) to the future of F500. >While I think that F500 is easily the best bang for the $$$, I also think
>we
>need some changes or the class will not survive.
>
>I have committed my $$$ and resources to building a current rule F500 with
>a
>600cc bike engine. I am going to use my 2nd Rakavon chassis & install a
>Suzuki GSXR 600cc bike engine. Over the weekend I purchased a BRAND NEW
>600cc GSXR engine for a bit over $2000 delivered to my shop. The engine
>includes EVERYTHING needed to run except for the headers. These engines are >available commercially and I made my decision based on the cost to purchase
>a complete Rotax drive train for another F500. For me to do a complete
>Rotax
>powertrain it would cost me over $4000 so I decided to bite the bullet &
>quit the BS & do it.
>
>Of course I have looked at this for a long time & I would not have made
>this
>decision if I did not think it was a LOWER COST viable solution for the
>powertrain. I also believe that I have a very low cost solution to any
>potential oiling problems with these engines.
>
>This is an experiment on my part & I do not expect all to think it is a
>good
>idea. However I do think it is important that an effort be made to test the
>feasibility of the concept.
>
>I will be posting regular updates with pictures etc, both here & on my
>website so keep in tune to see what is happening.
>
>As soon as the car is ready to run, in about 2 months, we will do a test
>session at a Michigan race track & I invite any & all competitors that are
>interested to attend.
>_________________
>Thanks ... Jay Novak
>F500 since 1984
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