Rick,

I take it that this is your experience. For instance, is this why 
you participate in the Weds nights at Tom T's?

What does it mean to chip away? Isn't a gestalt shift an all at once 
thing.

My experience is that "experience" contains its own knowledge. I use 
the word experience in quotes because I don't want it to refer 
exclusively to observables. What I mean here by knowledge is an 
innate and instant understanding of what is experienced.

An example would be suddenly realizing that "I" as a discriminating 
intellect, a waking entity capable of thought, a place in space and 
time strongly identified with, have just come into being as a 
created thing - "I" didn't exist a moment ago. This was no 
theoretical idea, but the most concretely experienced of realities. 
So who knew this, and who recognized the transition into "my" 
existence? I didn't have to study with advaitans to recognize all of 
this in an instant. Or to realize that my localized existence, as 
in, identification with the discriminator, is a complete fiction, 
but one in which I am totally stuck most of the time.


--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Because more frequent/constant checking chips away at delusion more
> effectively.

> on 5/11/05 2:50 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > But I wonder sometimes at its utility. In under an hour, I
> > am sure that someone familiar with the various conceptual nuances
> > and schools of thought on the topics of I, ego, doer, 
individuality,
> > self etc., could lay them all out so that anyone of reasonably
> > developed intellect could grasp the ideas and check on how well 
they
> > relate to their own experience. After that, what is the point,
> > unless it is to check in once every few years to see if one's
> > perspective has changed due to the clearing of fog or the 
shifting
> > of mirrors? 
> 





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