on 5/11/05 4:11 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I take it that this is your experience. For instance, is this why > you participate in the Weds nights at Tom T's?
Fair to say. > > What does it mean to chip away? Isn't a gestalt shift an all at once > thing. Yes. After chipping away for a long time. > > My experience is that "experience" contains its own knowledge. I use > the word experience in quotes because I don't want it to refer > exclusively to observables. What I mean here by knowledge is an > innate and instant understanding of what is experienced. > > An example would be suddenly realizing that "I" as a discriminating > intellect, a waking entity capable of thought, a place in space and > time strongly identified with, have just come into being as a > created thing - "I" didn't exist a moment ago. This was no > theoretical idea, but the most concretely experienced of realities. > So who knew this, and who recognized the transition into "my" > existence? I didn't have to study with advaitans to recognize all of > this in an instant. Or to realize that my localized existence, as > in, identification with the discriminator, is a complete fiction, > but one in which I am totally stuck most of the time. But did you realize this the first time you pondered it? Or after years of spiritual practice? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/