Hmm. the "r" at the end must be for rishi. What else could explain such 
insights?
   
  I have to admit I'm hoping life in deva-land beats moping around feeling bad 
for humans. 
   
  Angels ... mere sexless, boring slaves of yhvh - who needs them?
  The Houri-s sound so much better.
   
  
qntmpkt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
          --Maybe you were a "Conqueror Worm", a genuine evolutionary hero.

But see, amid the mimic rout
A crawling shape intrude!
A blood-red thing that writhes from out
The scenic solitude!
It writhes!–it writhes!–with mortal pangs
The mimes become its food,
And seraphs sob at vermin fangs
In human gore imbued.
Out–out are the lights–out all!
And, over each quivering form,
The curtain, a funeral pall,
Comes down with the rush of a storm,
While the angels, all pallid and wan,
Uprising, unveiling, affirm
That the play is the tragedy, "Man,"
And its hero the Conqueror Worm.

r 

- In [email protected], billy jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure that I should reply to you. You must be a devil since 
Sin is the better part of your name - and don't tell me its Sine. I 
think it's a sign. 
> 
> As far as Vaj is concerned, I wouldn't want to speak for him 
since he is the author of his own arguments. I'm actually waiting for 
this clarification myself. 
> 
> And by the way - I take great pride in my lowly origins, even 
lower than the ordinary maggot you reference in your comment. As a 
former shit-eating larvae, I do in fact claim a super-rapid ascent 
through the evolutionary strata of complex organisms. I have done 
extensive past-life research into my odious prior incarnations and 
have found the startling truth.
> 
> Starting from my introduction into the earth realm as a fecal 
larvae, I transformed into an extremely large and irritating fly, 
able to viciously bite large sweat-emitting mammals. This lead to my 
rather rapid demise from a vigorous fly-swat. Next incarnation - 
grain-devouring rodent, soon dispelled by suffocating poison, 
terribly painful but quickly liberating. After that I launched deeper 
into the mammalian realm as a boar, enabling me to recognize and 
somehow choose to identify as a predator rather than helpless prey.
> 
> Next came a wonderfully deceptive incarnation as a jackal - the 
key incarnation that caused me to become human. As I remember it, I 
was tearing out the entrails of a large mammal we had felled. The 
animal wasn't dead yet and when it looked up in shock, horror and 
agony at me eating it while still alive, I looked into its eyes and 
saw "myself" - not literally but rather another desperately entombed 
intelligence, just like "myself", the jackal. This caused me to 
suddenly generate the genuine idea "oh, its just like me", and this 
in spite of the fact that the other animal looked nothing like me. 
> 
> That was it - birth of an idea unbound by particularity and able 
to appreciate something authentically generalized and universal. In 
other words, I recognized a "universal" - the defining characteristic 
of human nature according to Socrates of Athens.
> 
> After this pivotal event, I took a quick series of human 
incarnations, lowly and serf-like at first but later more confident 
and assertive. From plebeian to patrician was just a couple of 
incarnations and then wham, I was reborn into 20th century Europe and 
then here into the new world.
> 
> Now my jyotish chart shows that I'll be reborn into the deva 
realm after death, obviously because I still can't tell the 
difference between purusha and the three guna-s. However, I don't 
feel bad because I figure I'll see everybody else here on FFL in that 
land of bliss, except Vaj, since we've all been deceived by Mahesh 
except him.
> 
> So aren't you really impressed at my rapid evolution? Maybe I 
should try and get promoted to a local, divinized logos like the 
Mormons claim (they say it is the next step). Maybe it would even 
beat twenty dark-eyed virgins. Hmm
> 
> Emptybill's a goin' higher
> 
> heh,heh 
> 
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