--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It is not possible to have a useful discussion with Ron as long as > > you cannot even read and understand the simplest of statements. > > HP: Well Nabby, we know in advance that there is not going to be a discussion between us > > > did not write what you claim, it's not useful for me with > > another "guru", but could be for others if he/she was enlightened. > > HP: cant figure out what you mean here. Your comment indicated that if my Guru were > enlightened meeting the criteria you have, then it would be of value to you. I am > answering that as long as you have a Guru and you are on that path, then weather some > other guru is or is not enlightened has no impact for you since you already have your Gur > and your path. That was my point. > > Therefore weather you believe that my guru is a seeker not enlightened or if you believe > that my Guru is enlightened, either way, it is not going to mean anything or have anything > to do with your life. > > > I'm sorry, but I have no trust in your "guru" whatsoever. > > HP: You would only need to have trust in my Guru is you were a disciple, since you are > not, it makes zero difference weather you have trust in her or not. Also whatever writtings > coming from my Guru, it would not make sense for you to read them > > She comes > > through as a someone who has been in India for awhile and is still a > > seeker, full of herself. Her claims for having brought 5 people to > > enlightenment is ridicelous to say the least when she stresses the > > need for the "enlightened" to study written material and keep coming > > to meetings to not "reroot" as you say. > > HP: In this path, there are no meetings, and no studying. For those interested in a path, > then it is advised here that they both be with the Guru and also the disciples. So, these > people are available to talk with, the phone numbers of my Guru and these enlightened > disciples are available for sincere seekers, also they can meet them in person. > > What happens then is the book descriptions of what the enlightened are and are not will > be challenged. They will never match and it is never going to be what you thought it was, > this applies to meeting enlightenment and also the unfoldment of enlightenment for each > one. > > > > Her claims are not real but > > fantasies, > > HP : You have the right to believe what you like > > as is her claim that Kalki has made 400 people > > enlightened. Fantasies. > > HP: You misunderstood this as it is not a claim of my guru- Kalki has nothing to do with > the path here > > > I think it would do you good to stop denouncing Masters like MMY, > > Muktananda and others. > > HP: I will make comparisons, then one can decide if that makes sense for them of not. > There was a guy a few weeks ago who is from TM but his thinking was that it was not the > right path for him, he was then going to go to Kalki. I ran into him, pointed out that I > benefitted from TM, but then went on to point out what is not there, also what is not at > Kalki's , that is here in my path. > > This is a negative thing for people to hear for those in the path that I am saying has > something lacking, so those happy in those paths should not read or listen to what I have > to say maybe- up to them > > Praise your guru if you like, but it makes > > you look even more foolish, if possible, to pretend you understand > > these Masters. > > HP: Again, I dont care how I look or what people think. I am not trying to recruit the > masses. One disciple wrote in to my Guru first time and asked can I be your disciple, the > answer was - are you ready to go through hell first? > > This is the kundalini path, ego candy is not handed out, prior to enlightenment, things > may be very difficult and no one here is saying it is going to be easy, it is not. > > If I were looking to recruit, then there would be a very different presentation and > methodology for that. It would be geared for all the things that look appealing these days. > The big organizations have these things or else they wouldn't be big. They do and present > things which look good. > > In my path, one may have to go through hell first- so which looks better?
Better would be to stabilize your nervoussystem before you flip out completely. Get a job.
