To the question who are they and how do I know it:
Briefly the way Hitler got made was this:  Two guys show up in Munich, both 
with a long string of aliases and both of them from abroad.  Nobody knows where 
they got their money, historians have looked and haven't been able to figure it 
out.  One of these two guys was hanging out with an agent of the Pope in New 
York City prior to showing up in Germany.  

The two of them start a society with a decidedly New Age flavor.  They teach 
meditation and "advanced" courses.  All secret.  They attract people from the 
upper echelons of society with money, but also working class types.  When 
teaching the advanced courses, however, they prefer the folks with money.  And 
they say that they're looking for a dictator.  Hitler joins them, and, pretty 
soon, the two guys think they've got their man.  They initiate him into higher 
teachings, they buy him new clothes, they correct his pronunciation, and they 
introduce him to the upper levels of society through those rich members they've 
also initiated into higher teachings.  They teach him mass psychology and coach 
him in public speaking.  They tell him he's the chosen one to create the New 
World Order.  Then they start a political party, and now the money starts to 
flow.  When you trace it, most of it comes from Wall Street, but some of it 
comes from France and from England.  I.G. Farben, a
 local money source, is in a position to give money because American 
corporations have helped them into that position.  Once the party is showing 
signs of success, the two guys dissolve the society.  One of them vanished.  
The other one works directly for Hitler.  The Vatican tells all Catholic 
priests in Germany to tell their congregations to vote for Hitler, and by some 
magical and cosmic coincidence, the agent of the Pope in New York City becomes 
Hitler's second in command.  Hitler never gets the popular vote in spite of the 
Catholic vote, but there are always the back stairs, and Prescott Bush hires 
about 300,000 Blackwater types to crush opposition against Hitler in Germany.

Who sent the two guys?  Beats the hell outa me, though I suspect the Vatican 
had something to do with it. 

How do I know?  Historical research.  My bibliography is about 25 pages long at 
this point.  Where would I begin to tell you?  a

Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                               Comment 
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 --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > 
 > On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Angela Mailander wrote:
 > 
 > > Yes, I totally agree.  Hitler was used by those who still want to  
 > > establish the New World Order.  In fact, he was told in those exact  
 > > terms, New World Order, that he would be "instrumental" in  
 > > establishing  it.  He wasn't told that he'd only be a  step along  
 > > the way, though.  He believed he was to be the big enchilada---the  
 > > thousand-year Reich was to be sat-yuga.  The antisemitism was not  
 > > real in the same sense that the terrorists we're all afraid of  
 > > today are not real. Hitler needed a single enemy to focus the  
 > > people's attention on.  There is even some evidence that Jews  
 > > supplied him with the notion that they could be that single enemy.   
 > > It's not conclusive evidence, but certainly the Warburgs were  
 > > involved in it, in spite of the fact that Paul Warburg lost two  
 > > close relatives in the death camps.  a
 > 
 > 
 > Are there really significant parallels between the Third Reich and  
 > Mahesh "yogis" spiritual movement though? And are these same ideas  
 > being cloned onto splinter satsang groups?
 > 
 > Rick posted a very interesting link to a video which purported to be  
 > by an ex-KGB agent which claimed groups like the KGB were observing  
 > the TMO for ideas in undermining nations.
 >
 
 **end**
 
 Hannah Arendt's books The Origin of Totalitarianism was a very
 powerful awakening to me of how the TMO and Maharishi operate, albeit
 (perhaps), unconsciously.  The fundamental diagram of the leader at
 the very center of the movement, with concentric cells of followers
 around the leader, extending outwards from the font of the ideology to
 the general public at large, with each level at its own position on
 the gradient from closer to the leader to farthest away; from the
 inner circle to John & Jane Q. Public.
 
 What I really got from it was how the organization of "higher" levels
 within the movement allowed the leader to insulate himself (or
 herself) from the larger, consensual reality that the ideology was
 prepared to supplant.  The first relational dynamic is just the leader
 and the rest of the world.  Once the leader has followers there is a
 division (to one degree or another) between them and the "outside the
 ideology" world.
 
 What really got to me was how she described the totalitarian leader's
 natural organization of "levels" *within* the new movement and the
 setting of qualifications/bars to admittance to each new level; each
 new level or intimacy with the ideology (and/or the leader) requiring
 not only a greater commitment to the ideology but also a greater
 rejection of the outside world.  In this model those on the outside
 levels are equally important to the organization, however, because
 they entirely interface with the greater social reality and function
 as conduits for resources from the outside world (money, for instance)
 as well as buffers from that world for those on the inner levels.
 
 With the establishment of each new level, Arendt says, the leader
 demands an increased personal commitment which some percentage cannot
 muster and so find themselves relegated to a lower, less powerful
 level (as perceived by the follower) as a new inner circle is created.
  Fanaticism is selected for and 'bred' into the movement; furthermore,
 it increasingly becomes the ideal strived for. 
 
 It matched my experiences of the TMO.  
 
 (As a total side note and not to draw a parallel with the TMO, Arendt
 points out how the first SS officers to run the first mobile gas
 chambers for the elimination of the Jews, were chosen from the very
 best and intelligent of the military.  Their idealism and character
 was invoked as necessary to do what might be seen as despicable by the
 outside world; their integrity was needed to be sure that what they
 did was right and noble.  It was a complete conversion of principle to
 justify unprincipled behavior.)
 
 Marek
 
 
     
                               

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