--- In [email protected], Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To the question who are they and how do I know it: > Briefly the way Hitler got made was this: Two guys show up in Munich, both with a long string of aliases and both of them from abroad. Nobody knows where they got their money, historians have looked and haven't been able to figure it out. One of these two guys was hanging out with an agent of the Pope in New York City prior to showing up in Germany. > > The two of them start a society with a decidedly New Age flavor. They teach meditation and "advanced" courses. All secret. They attract people from the upper echelons of society with money, but also working class types. When teaching the advanced courses, however, they prefer the folks with money. And they say that they're looking for a dictator. Hitler joins them, and, pretty soon, the two guys think they've got their man. They initiate him into higher teachings, they buy him new clothes, they correct his pronunciation, and they introduce him to the upper levels of society through those rich members they've also initiated into higher teachings. They teach him mass psychology and coach him in public speaking. They tell him he's the chosen one to create the New World Order. Then they start a political party, and now the money starts to flow. When you trace it, most of it comes from Wall Street, but some of it comes from France and from England. I.G. Farben, a > local money source, is in a position to give money because American corporations have helped them into that position. Once the party is showing signs of success, the two guys dissolve the society. One of them vanished. The other one works directly for Hitler. The Vatican tells all Catholic priests in Germany to tell their congregations to vote for Hitler, and by some magical and cosmic coincidence, the agent of the Pope in New York City becomes Hitler's second in command. Hitler never gets the popular vote in spite of the Catholic vote, but there are always the back stairs, and Prescott Bush hires about 300,000 Blackwater types to crush opposition against Hitler in Germany. > > Who sent the two guys? Beats the hell outa me, though I suspect the Vatican had something to do with it. > > How do I know? Historical research. My bibliography is about 25 pages long at this point. Where would I begin to tell you? >>
The best bet it is to start by naming to us the credible sources in your bibliography of 25 pages...and Wikipedia, Richard Hoagland, and Eric Von Danichen better not be amongst them ;-) OffWorld > > Marek Reavis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Comment below: > > ** > > --- In [email protected], Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > On Oct 14, 2007, at 6:06 PM, Angela Mailander wrote: > > > > > Yes, I totally agree. Hitler was used by those who still want to > > > establish the New World Order. In fact, he was told in those exact > > > terms, New World Order, that he would be "instrumental" in > > > establishing it. He wasn't told that he'd only be a step along > > > the way, though. He believed he was to be the big enchilada--- the > > > thousand-year Reich was to be sat-yuga. The antisemitism was not > > > real in the same sense that the terrorists we're all afraid of > > > today are not real. Hitler needed a single enemy to focus the > > > people's attention on. There is even some evidence that Jews > > > supplied him with the notion that they could be that single enemy. > > > It's not conclusive evidence, but certainly the Warburgs were > > > involved in it, in spite of the fact that Paul Warburg lost two > > > close relatives in the death camps. a > > > > > > Are there really significant parallels between the Third Reich and > > Mahesh "yogis" spiritual movement though? And are these same ideas > > being cloned onto splinter satsang groups? > > > > Rick posted a very interesting link to a video which purported to be > > by an ex-KGB agent which claimed groups like the KGB were observing > > the TMO for ideas in undermining nations. > > > > **end** > > Hannah Arendt's books The Origin of Totalitarianism was a very > powerful awakening to me of how the TMO and Maharishi operate, albeit > (perhaps), unconsciously. The fundamental diagram of the leader at > the very center of the movement, with concentric cells of followers > around the leader, extending outwards from the font of the ideology to > the general public at large, with each level at its own position on > the gradient from closer to the leader to farthest away; from the > inner circle to John & Jane Q. Public. > > What I really got from it was how the organization of "higher" levels > within the movement allowed the leader to insulate himself (or > herself) from the larger, consensual reality that the ideology was > prepared to supplant. The first relational dynamic is just the leader > and the rest of the world. Once the leader has followers there is a > division (to one degree or another) between them and the "outside the > ideology" world. > > What really got to me was how she described the totalitarian leader's > natural organization of "levels" *within* the new movement and the > setting of qualifications/bars to admittance to each new level; each > new level or intimacy with the ideology (and/or the leader) requiring > not only a greater commitment to the ideology but also a greater > rejection of the outside world. In this model those on the outside > levels are equally important to the organization, however, because > they entirely interface with the greater social reality and function > as conduits for resources from the outside world (money, for instance) > as well as buffers from that world for those on the inner levels. > > With the establishment of each new level, Arendt says, the leader > demands an increased personal commitment which some percentage cannot > muster and so find themselves relegated to a lower, less powerful > level (as perceived by the follower) as a new inner circle is created. > Fanaticism is selected for and 'bred' into the movement; furthermore, > it increasingly becomes the ideal strived for. > > It matched my experiences of the TMO. > > (As a total side note and not to draw a parallel with the TMO, Arendt > points out how the first SS officers to run the first mobile gas > chambers for the elimination of the Jews, were chosen from the very > best and intelligent of the military. Their idealism and character > was invoked as necessary to do what might be seen as despicable by the > outside world; their integrity was needed to be sure that what they > did was right and noble. It was a complete conversion of principle to > justify unprincipled behavior.) > > Marek > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
