--- In [email protected], Angela Mailander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not exonerating anyone, nor am I blaming anyone. I assume that when you say that you've read everything you could find on WWII, you mean what you could find in English. I read German, French, and Russian and can get through Dutch, Italian, Spanish and Danish given time and a dictionary. I went to high school in three different countries and learned early that the history that is taught in the U.S. is not the same history that is taught in, say, France. As for conspiracy theory bullshit, an objective researcher reads that also and with as critical an eye as she reads everything else. In fact, the minute a culture makes something taboo, she definitely takes a closer look. As for references, most of what I've got is in German and in French. I'll provide those references if you read those languages. >
No need, if something as interesting as this has been written about in France and Germany it will have been picked up by English historians too. In fact wikipedia has a good entry on both of them, they sound like a couple of characters to say the least! No mention of them "making" Hitler, but plenty on where they got their money (they were agents of foreign governments). If you have better sources why not bring wikipedia up to date. That's all I can find online, apart from loads of Illuminati/zionist stuff. Will check my history books to make sure. Thanks for writing all this, always nice to know there could be more to the world. > > Now, about the two guys: one of them is Moses Pinkeles (probably a Jew), a.k.a. Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln, a.k.a. Thimotheus Lincoln, a.k.a. Lama Djordi Den, a.k.a. Abbot Chao Kung. The agent of the pope he hung out with in New York in 1915 (two years after the creation of the Federal Reserve (which, by published admission of some of its members, was a conspiracy) was Franz von Papen. He was a Papal Chamberlain and best bud of Eugenio Pacelli, Papal Nuncio in Germany, the man who later becomes Pius XII. > > Moses (a.k.a. Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln, a.k.a. Thimotheus Lincoln, a.k.a. Lama Djordi Den, a.k.a. Abbot Chao Kung) later works directly under Himmler, establishes a Buddhist monastery in Berlin and goes on several expeditions to Tibet for Hitler, the first of which is to deliver a radio to the Dalai Lama (not the current guy, but his predecessor) so that Adolf and the Lama can chat daily. > > Moses (a.k.a. Ignaz Trebitsch-Lincoln, a.k.a. Thimotheus Lincoln, a.k.a. Lama Djordi Den, a.k.a. Abbot Chao Kung) is a useful fellow, it appears. In addition to working behind the scenes to help put Hitler in charge of Germany, he also helps the Shah of Iran grab the throne (though the evidence is somewhat sketchy in this instance), but he engineers several revolutions in China, working for three different war lordsno fuzzy evidence this time, but clear as day. He always has enough money to do these things, (buying a newspaper for Hitler, for example, which became the official Nazi rag) but all efforts to trace the source(s) of this money, have remained fruitless. > > The other, equally mysterious and useful guy with unknown sources of money at his back and who blew into Munich with multiple names was Rudolf Glauer, a.k.a. Erwin Torre, a.k.a. the Baron Rudolf, Freiherr von Sebottendorf. Much of Rudy's life lies in darkness, but it seems that as a young man, he was initiated into a Masonic Order by a Jewish banker by the name of Termudi in Turkey, and, with Termudi's guidance, he made it to the level of Rosicrucian Grand Master. By the time he's going on forty and just before coming to Germany, he is adopted by another Rosicrucian, the German expatriate, Freiherr von Sebottendorf und von der Rose. If Rudy were to be useful in Germany, he definitely needed that von in front of his name. > > It was primarily Rudy and Moses who provided the occult philosophy to the Thule Society which became an important aspect of Nazism, though one ignored by most historians and by the War Crimes Trials after the war. Rudy and Moses also provided the antisemitism, pervasively current in most of Europe and Russia, and which, from the beginning was designed to create a single enemy for the masses to focus on. It is important to understand that in the Thule Society, the society Rudy started with Moses at his back, especially at its upper levels, the rule was what Goering later said quite openly, "Who's a Jew and who isn't is my decision." > > And here's a little icing on the cake of mystery which may or may not have anything to do with anything: Rudy and Moses apparently faked their own deaths. Rudy was a seeming suicide, but the body that was fished out of the Bosporus River turned out on later and on closer examination not to be his. And Moses, as the Abbot Chao Kung, allegedly died in a hospital in Shanghai, but when the Americans dug up his grave after the war, they found his coffin to be empty. a > > hugheshugo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In [email protected], Angela Mailander > <mailander111@> wrote: > > > > To the question who are they and how do I know it: > > Briefly the way Hitler got made was this: Two guys show up in > Munich, both with a long string of aliases and both of them from > abroad. Nobody knows where they got their money, historians have > looked and haven't been able to figure it out. One of these two guys > was hanging out with an agent of the Pope in New York City prior to > showing up in Germany. > > > > > > I'm afraid you're going to have to do better than this "two guys show > up in munich" line. > > What were their names, where did they live, any photos? Most > importanntly how come I have read every book about WW2 I could find > and have never heard this. > > References please! or I will assume it is some "elders of Zion" type > of conspiracy theory bullshit trying to exonerate one of the worst > human beings ever. > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com >
