--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajranatha@> wrote: > > > > > > It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you > > begin > > > to recognize a spontaneous quality that can only be termed "virtues" > > > or "virtuous". It's the Natural Condition. Co-emergent with that > > > recognition is our own Natural State, which is equally abundant in > > > what I call "spontaneous qualities" (of the enlightened state). Any > > > meditator will begin to recognize that quality in others. No > > > scientific research necessary, this is something most people would > > > recognize. > > > > ...as co-dependent moodmaking. > > > > *lol* > > No, as "spontaneous [excellent] qualities".
Apparently, one person's "spontaneous [excellent] qualities are another's "co-dependent moodmaking," then, Vaj; or maybe you meant to say, "*our* group's enlightened qualities are spontaneous and excellent; *yours* are co-dependent moodmaking"? Either way, one could probably make a good case for this whole line of thinking being baloney, along the lines of mistaking sattva (a guna) for purusha (free from gunas), or mistaking "making it a really, really *good* movie" with actual freedom from belief in the movie. > We already have one editor here, who needs a retired antiquarian? Who indeed? If you still think you and I exist, then you do, apparently, as here I apparently am. Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle hint the first time around: the possessive of "it" is "its" -- not "it's", which is only used by the literate as the contraction of "it is."