--- In [email protected], "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -If one holds a specific meaning of a mantra, it seems to me, that one > is not only holding a limiting value of meaning, but is getting caught > on a superficial level, instead of transcending to the deeper levels > of consciousness.
Right. Lets suppose your mantra was 'Raam' und you think Raam is a specific Avatar of Vishnu, it is wrong, because Raam does not signify a specific God. I have seen teachers saying this. I'll post you a webpage later. Guru Dev says, that you should see your Ishta (supposedly you have an Istha and believe in it, as GD was talking to an Indian audience) in everything, and in every other God, and in the whole creation, then the mantra looses actually its specific conotations. He is the virtually asking for the mantra to loose any specific limiting meaning. It is virtually all and nothing, not any idea whe have of whatsoever God. Simply speaking Raam doesn't denote the Avatar anymore. In the Ramacharitmanas, which according to Rick was Guru Devs favorate scripture, Raam itself is the body of God. At one moment the scripture even says that the mantra is more important than God himself, and it equally holds the view that it is the 'all wish fulfilling tree', so to say the cure-all as what TM was always marketed, and that it is equally potent without knowing any meaning. IOW the vibration of the mantra in itself is seen as the means and not something it denotes. Of course this is from a Hindu POV. But see its implications. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
