--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote:
> >  
> > In a message dated 1/5/08 8:07:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> > jimdale827@ writes:
> > 
> > Have  Americans got a problem with Muslims  then?
> > 
> > Jim.
> > 
> > Evidently Judy thinks so because in my original post I referred
> > to Obama as a Muslim and she and a couple others became overly 
> > defensive of it, calling it a  dirty trick and a lie etc. and 
> > calling me a xenophobe and a racist. You know,  the common attack 
> > liberals make against people that don't share their political
> > agenda. Yet she was the one all upset at Obama being referred to
> > as a Muslim as  if it were an insult and a smear.
> 
> What liberals tend to dislike most about right-wingers
> is not their political agenda but their propensity to
> lie, as MDixon does above.
> 
> First, it wasn't I who called him a xenophobe and a
> racist. I called him an unscrupulous cynic for having
> deliberately attempted to elicit outrage about his
> lie that Obama is a Muslim so he could then call the
> folks who objected xenophobes and racists, just as he
> does above, by pretending that they considered it a
> smear.
> 
> With possibly a few exceptions, on this forum nobody
> thinks it would reflect badly on Obama were he a
> Muslim. In other less knowledgeable and sophisticated
> venues in this country, of course, Muslims are considered
> evil and treacherous, which is why right-wingers are
> trying to spread the rumor that Obama is a Muslim.
> 
> What's so offensive about the rumor is its *appeal* to
> xenophobia and its exploitation of ignorance.
> 
> MDixon knows all this (just as he knew from the start
> that Obama isn't Muslim) because I explained it to him
> in my initial response. So his current post involves
> several layers of quite disgraceful disingenuity and
> deception.
> 
>  I think the 
> > average Muslim in the know would  have said "No, he's not a Muslim
> > even though his father and stepfather were." I  doubt they would 
> > have taken it as a smear, probably more as a complement.
> 
> Of course the "average Muslim" would not consider it a
> smear. However, Muslims "in the know" would add that
> Obama's father had become an atheist by the time he met
> Obama's mother (who was raised Christian but was not a
> believer) and divorced her when Obama was two years old.
> His stepfather's heritage was Muslim, but he did not
> practice Islam and separated from Obama's mother after
> five years. So even to say Obama has "Muslim roots" is
> a gross exaggeration. He was neither brought up as nor
> educated as a Muslim.

The fact is, Judy, that MDixon posted a simple
two-line troll and both you and John fell for it
like a ton of bricks, dashing in and attempting
to shoot the messenger by doing EXACTLY the
thing you are accusing him of -- labeling him
with degrogatory words and phrases. 

MDixon has been remarkably calm and non-attached
in this mêlée, whereas two supposed liberals have
gone out of their way to paint him as a terrible
person -- a xenophobe, a bigot, a liar.

I just find the whole exchange interesting in that
it consists of one simple troll and then the hys-
terical reaction and smear tactics of a couple of
people who fell for it, and don't even *realize*
that the tactics they're suggesting that MDixon
is using are their own.

MDixon 1
do.rflex and authfriend 0



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