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The above is the link I meant to give. It's the same blogger, only in this article he goes into detail about the advisors of Obama, Clinton, and Edwards -- all in-the-box war mongers. Edg --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy, > > I still think that Obama's few years of pre-teen schooling in > Indonesia had to instill in him some Muslim wisdom which, as a deep > thinker that he is, would have caused him to be far closer to "being > Muslim" than "ordinary Christians." > > I've traveled in Indonesia, and it's a progressive Muslim country that > isn't nearly as fundie as, say, Saudi Arabia, but still, Obama knew as > a youngster all about the culture there. > > I grew up in a Polish neighborhood in Detroit -- don't tell me I don't > know about their food, their Catholic schools, their ways. I have a > soft spot in my heart for Polish folks ever since. Surely Obama loved > many folks in his youth there. > > I take great hope from this. I think that if Obama is half-black he > is nonetheless seen as fully black by his race. If a man came forth > with an American Indian father but who had never lived on a > reservation, well, there would be a great hope arising in those cultures. > > Same deal with women wanting Hillary to break the glass ceiling. > > We see our likeness in others based upon the smallest things. > > I think you're defensive about Obama because the world is so racist > that the least fact can negatively solidify mind-sets out there, but I > say that Obama is really quite culturally wealthy in a marvelous > fashion that gives me hope for his being able to have a much deeper > dialog with the Muslims. Not that he will be seen as a Muslim by them > -- heck they're bombing each other over small print in the Koran -- > but that "he at least was raised in a Muslim culture for a few years" > will allow for him to be cut a break. > > That said, Obama's advisors are still "in the box" -- not out -- he's > got war-mongers advising him, and he's not as "peaceful" as he seems > to be with his anti-war speeches. > > If you want to be challenged about Obama's credentials, try reading > this guy's article about Obama's advisors. http://newsc.blogspot.com/ > > It gives me the shudders, so I'm still clinging to a faint hope the > Kucinich will do well in NH. > > Edg > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <jstein@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 1/5/08 8:07:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > > jimdale827@ writes: > > > > > > Have Americans got a problem with Muslims then? > > > > > > Jim. > > > > > > Evidently Judy thinks so because in my original post I referred > > > to Obama as a Muslim and she and a couple others became overly > > > defensive of it, calling it a dirty trick and a lie etc. and > > > calling me a xenophobe and a racist. You know, the common attack > > > liberals make against people that don't share their political > > > agenda. Yet she was the one all upset at Obama being referred to > > > as a Muslim as if it were an insult and a smear. > > > > What liberals tend to dislike most about right-wingers > > is not their political agenda but their propensity to > > lie, as MDixon does above. > > > > First, it wasn't I who called him a xenophobe and a > > racist. I called him an unscrupulous cynic for having > > deliberately attempted to elicit outrage about his > > lie that Obama is a Muslim so he could then call the > > folks who objected xenophobes and racists, just as he > > does above, by pretending that they considered it a > > smear. > > > > With possibly a few exceptions, on this forum nobody > > thinks it would reflect badly on Obama were he a > > Muslim. In other less knowledgeable and sophisticated > > venues in this country, of course, Muslims are considered > > evil and treacherous, which is why right-wingers are > > trying to spread the rumor that Obama is a Muslim. > > > > What's so offensive about the rumor is its *appeal* to > > xenophobia and its exploitation of ignorance. > > > > MDixon knows all this (just as he knew from the start > > that Obama isn't Muslim) because I explained it to him > > in my initial response. So his current post involves > > several layers of quite disgraceful disingenuity and > > deception. > > > > I think the > > > average Muslim in the know would have said "No, he's not a Muslim > > > even though his father and stepfather were." I doubt they would > > > have taken it as a smear, probably more as a complement. > > > > Of course the "average Muslim" would not consider it a > > smear. However, Muslims "in the know" would add that > > Obama's father had become an atheist by the time he met > > Obama's mother (who was raised Christian but was not a > > believer) and divorced her when Obama was two years old. > > His stepfather's heritage was Muslim, but he did not > > practice Islam and separated from Obama's mother after > > five years. So even to say Obama has "Muslim roots" is > > a gross exaggeration. He was neither brought up as nor > > educated as a Muslim. > > >
