--- In [email protected], "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > > on 6/15/05 3:51 PM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
> > > > What is your definition of "awakening" ?
> > > 
> > > Same as yours, dude. Same as Maharishi's. C.C.
> > 
> > But how do you know that it was the leaving that prompted the 
> > awakening, or the awakening that prompted the leaving?
> 
> Either way - it's the head and tail of the same cat ... How many of
> the 'newly awakened' do you know that are still 'true believers'?
> 
> And that's as circular as I want to get!
> 

The people who are being studied at MUM show the highest signs of CC 
of anyone that I am aware of. True, perhaps all the people in "real" 
CC aren't available for study, or perhaps the people that left are 
the ones who are deluding themselves.

You can always organize a study of "newly awakened" former TMers and 
compare their physiology to the ongoing participants in the program.





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