On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: > Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self reported. The difference > between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. It's a catagory > difference. Once it is clearly known that unbounded is not a 'really > big space', and that eternal is not a 'really long time' the whole > idea of relative signs falls apart...
In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner experience and POV with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I can't tell you how many people I've met who thought they were enlightened after a certain experience or shift in awareness. In every case the experience was a symptom of some part of awakening or some aspect of the Path. In the first part of my training a portion was on people who will report instances of enlightenment after practicing certain practices, so there is a practical literature out there on this very topic, it's just not generally discussed outside the tradition (let alone on email lists). -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
