--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Jun 18, 2005, at 10:03 AM, jyouells2000 wrote: > > > Agreed 'sign's of awakening' can only be self > reported. The difference > > between nearly infinite and infinite is infinite. > It's a catagory > > difference. Once it is clearly known that > unbounded is not a 'really > > big space', and that eternal is not a 'really long > time' the whole > > idea of relative signs falls apart... > > In many traditions one checks ones View, their inner > experience and POV > with a teacher who's 'been there, done that'. I > can't tell you how many > people I've met who thought they were enlightened > after a certain > experience or shift in awareness. In every case the > experience was a > symptom of some part of awakening or some aspect of > the Path. In the > first part of my training a portion was on people > who will report > instances of enlightenment after practicing certain > practices, so there > is a practical literature out there on this very > topic, it's just not > generally discussed outside the tradition (let alone > on email lists). > > -V. Yes, what is usually discussed on an e-mail list are peoples' mental models of enlightenment and how wrong you are if you don't express your experience of enlightenment within the confines of my mental model. > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/