--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 6/25/05 12:35 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > --- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yes, that's all good and fine, but are you understanding this to > > mean that a realized person can not exhibit angry behavior? Why would > > that occur? Forget about me. Let's talk about MMY, somebody that, I > > assume, we can agree is Self-realized. Have you ever seen him royally > > pissed-off? I have. It is a sight to behold. Raw power. Many others > > on this list have seen him pissed-off too. Does that mean that he is > > not enlightened? Of course not. The understanding of the scripture is > > incorrect. It does mean an enlightened being can not get angry. > >> > > > > The anger does not touch their essential nature. > > The anger is their essential nature. IOW, they are the anger just as they > are everything else they perceive.
??? Anger, like all other experience, is a relative thing. While someone in Unity may well be "one with the anger," you can make a case that the analysis of someone in CC's anger is as far as you need go in discussing this issue (at least *I* make that case). With someone in CC, you have Self and you have everything else, including all emotional states. As long as those emotional states don't draw the person out of CC, then those states doesn't touch their essential nature. You can say that they are angry (have the experience of anger) and yet are untouched by it, on the level of Self. When dealing with what the Gita says, recall that it can be interpreted according to the state of consciousness of the reader. For someone who is in waking state, the verses are a warning against anger because it is detrimental for growth. For someone transitioning into CC, they are still a warning about growth because anger, according to the Gita, is the most likely thing to draw someone out of Self. For someone in CC, they are an observation that someone in CC isn't angry in the sense that Self can't get angry even if body can. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
