On Jun 25, 2005, at 10:02 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:

> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2005, at 8:20 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>
>>> --- In [email protected], Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 25, 2005, at 4:06 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vaj, reading over your words, you make TM sound so difficult,
>>>>> arduous even, if done correctly. I initially understood it to
> be a
>>>>> stress release technique, and still do it as such. I had a job
>>>>> recently where I awakened at 4:30am for a 60 mile commute. I
> was
>>>>> always exhausted on my return each day and religiously fell
> asleep
>>>>> during every evening meditation.
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't talking about TM but about a similar meditation practice
> that
>>>> goes about 5 stages beyond TM-style meditation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Ah, I see. So in its beginning stages, its easy, but in the more
>>> advanced stages, it gets difficult?
>>
>> Not quite that simple :-) In the final stages it is possible to
>> "transcend" for four hours at a time, effortlessly. One sits down,
>> decides how long they will meditate and finishes when they intend
> to.
>
> sounds very blissful, more so than I can possibly imagine. But why
> would you want to do that? What is the motivation, the benefit? That
> I don't get.

Once one finally attains this there is rather dramatic shift in the 
nervous system. Physical bliss and mental bliss do arise, but once that 
rapture fades then total stability can arise. Even befor ethis though 
one will have attained taming and pacification of the mind, this has a 
great benefit to the environment, as Patanjali notes. We talked about 
this before when we talked about Thurman's _Inner Revolution_.

A noticeable benefit will be that entire complexes of negative thought 
and destructive emotion are simply gone. The emotional afflictions will 
begin to dissolve. Meditation on the Clear light becomes much easier. 
There would be a long list of benefits if you wanted to list such 
things but really gaining the ability to pacify and tame the minds of 
others is probably the finest thing.



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