--- In [email protected], Peter Sutphen 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> > The concept of Maya is clearly stated in the Rig
> > Veda Richo Akshare 
> > verse, and many other places. It is a constant
> > theme, and to say 
> > that Buddha invented it is absurd.
> > 
> > Richo Akshare  Parame Vyoman  Yasmin Deva 
> > Adhivishve Nisheduh 
> > Yastanna Veda Kimricha Karishyati Ya It tad vidus 
> > Ta ime samasate
> 
> Help me out here, where do you find the concept of
> "maya" in the above sanskrit quote? Maya is simply a
> term used to label how that which is "not" can appear
> to "be".

If I may, my understanding of MMY's definition
of maya is a bit different.  Maya is "that which
is not," but the illusion is that it isn't Unity;
it appears to be only diversity.

Swami Rama and a disciple are sitting watching
a glorious sunset.

"Look at that sunset," sighs the disciple.  "So
beautiful...but it's all just maya."

"No, no, no," Swami Rama retorts.  "The sunset
isn't maya, it's God.  To say the sunset isn't
God--*that's* maya."

MMY's translation of the Richo Akshare verse:

"The verses of Veda exist in the collapse of fullness in the 
transcendental field, in which reside all the impulses of creative 
intelligence, the laws of Nature, responsible for the whole manifest 
universe. He whose awareness is not open to this field, what can the 
verses accomplish for him? Those who know this level of reality are 
established in evenness, in wholeness of life."

In the context of the definition I gave (and MMY's
translation), the verse does indeed refer to maya,
"the whole manifest universe," which is in reality
the expression of Unity, the transcendental field.

If you are not a knower of the transcendental field,
you miss the wholeness of life (maya).





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