It's just that let's say 20 years ago I was sitting during 'readings' 
'looking into' 'the nature of mind as colors and tigle.' I asked the course 
leader about it. You know - "It's nothing."  As it turns out this is the 
luminous essence of ones energetic nature manifesting.  Entirely and 
spontaneously ones own vibration manifests and no 'inner' or 'outer' can be 
ascribed to it, thus there can be no 'coming' or 'going' with regard to self 
vision.

If you get a bit too into it a lot of whacky shit can be seen happening. It 
can all get to be a bit too much.  Sometimes people who are here get the 
term - "Togal crazy."

But you have to 'look into' 'togel' to get the notion entirely. To look into 
togal you would need to know something about 'trekchod,' for your mental 
health.  Okay, thanks for reading, as if.  See ya guys later.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk" <kirk_bernha...@cox.net>
To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2009 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visions during TM-sessions: blue sun?


> It's just that all the descriptions of such things are not the same for 
> all
> people, so there's no point trying to make sense of them. Just as you 
> though
> my response was pointless, yours was no less so.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "BillyG." <wg...@yahoo.com>
> To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 9:22 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visions during TM-sessions: blue sun?
>
>
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernha...@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>>
>> Whoa, another penetrating insightful response, what a guy! Well, brevity
>> is the soul of wit......(in this case witless).  :-)
>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "BillyG." <wg...@...>
>>> To: <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:44 AM
>>> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Visions during TM-sessions: blue sun?
>>>
>>>
>>> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <no_reply@> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > During the first years of my "doing" TM I often "saw" a
>>> >> > "blue sun" somewhat like this:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/166805main_image_feature_736_ys_full.jpg
>>> >> >
>>> >> > As I recall it, the color was more even, and the "sun" had
>>> >> > small flames on the edge. I also seem to recall it was
>>> >> > very slowly "approaching" me and the disappering to start
>>> >> > the same all over again.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Can't recall when I stopped "seeing" it. If it occasionally
>>> >> > appears nowadaze, it's rather "ragged"...
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Since the ultimate outcome of TM practice is supposed to be to
>>> >> establish
>>> >> pure consciousness outside meditation, I wouldn't put any great store
>>> >> in
>>> >> such
>>> >> things. Its like "kundalini rising" experiences: they might be
>>> >> signposts
>>> >> along
>>> >> the way, but who is to say you haven't managed to create your own
>>> >> deceptive
>>> >> signposts by wishful thinking?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> L
>>> >
>>> > It may very well be the third eye chakra you are seeing....once you
>>> > penetrate this 'eye' you will eventually see a five pointed star, 
>>> > going
>>> > further and penetrating into this star ushers you into Cosmic
>>> > Consciousness, (what MMY calls Unity).
>>> >
>>> > Every chakra has a sound associated with it, when you transcend,
>>> > (depending how deep you go), you will hear the sounds associated with
>>> > each
>>> > Chakra until finally you hear the Holy Sound of AUM (pranava) which
>>> > buoys
>>> > you aloft to pure happiness.  ("Everybody's inner being is pure
>>> > happiness", MMY).
>>> >
>>> > Each chakra sound is a biproduct of the mechanics associated with that
>>> > stratified level of creation, the entire creation being the product of
>>> > Sound vibration itself.
>>> >
>>> >
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