Raunchy, Your post showed such a tolerance for my different view, respect for me a person who holds such different views, and without a shred of making me wrong for holding them, I am moved. Love and respect back at ya. I have no doubt that given some almond chocolate biscottis and something warm to dip them in, we would enjoy an fascinating conversation on where we are drawing are different lines on this funnhouse mirror we call "reality." You have written for me an excellent reputation to live up to, I will do my best!
> Curtis labeled himself as a cynic. I labeled myself as an idealist. In > between, we live in shades of gray. The cynic who insists the world is black > or white, does indeed live to crush idealism. There isn't any wiggle room in > their life for beauty, magic and surrender of the heart. It makes them feel > ill. If someone says they believe in unicorns, the cynic's blood boils with > excitement at the thought of packing the unicorn believer into a box and > sending them off to the trash compactor. > > Curtis is not a cynic who lives in a black and white world. He is an > idealistic cynic, a purist, a magnanimous spirit, confident enough in himself > to treat the unicorn believer with respect. When it comes to Maharishi and I > wear my heart on my sleeve, I am well aware that I have made myself a target > for derision from cynics living in the world of black and white. Curtis > trusts his instincts, has a genuine interest in truthful self-inquiry and > courageous go-it-alone attitude about his spiritual path. I respect his > choice. I choose differently. Maharishi never failed or mislead me. I have > always felt confident in his direction. There is no right or wrong in any of > this. Curtis loves his spiritual path and I love mine. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "boo_lives" <boo_lives@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" <raunchydog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <geezerfreak@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Well put Curtis. Raunch's comments are so out of touch with the > > > > > > reality of what happened that I just throw my hands up and move on, > > > > > > putting a mental check mark of "cultwhipped" in the Raunch column. > > > > > > There's no reasoning with folk this far gone IMO but I give you > > > > > > huge credit for your amazing patience and ability to attempt reason > > > > > > when the chances of understanding are nil. > > > > > > > > > > > > I wanna be like you when I grow up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virtue here Geezer, I like Raunchy. She expresses the kind of > > > > > heart that I relate to and seems to care about people's feelings in > > > > > her posts. Plus without her willingness to write in detail about > > > > > movement beliefs I wouldn't have the opportunities to run my cynical > > > > > bastard routine! And I love's my cynical bastard routine! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the CD plug brother. I heading over to Florence for two > > > > > weeks starting Tuesday to do a little busking and hopefully see the > > > > > insides of more churches than Italian jails! A little Delta by the > > > > > Duomo! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right, whether we choose cynicism or idealism, it is still a choice. > > > > It's interesting that cynicism is just as invested in crushing idealism > > > > as the idealist is in ignoring the hysteria underlying the cautions of > > > > the cynic. "Ha Ha if you believe THAT, then you must think pigs can > > > > fly. Sister, you are in serious need of cult deprogramming." So > > > > certain, the cynic of his beliefs, so superior in his wisdom of > > > > caution, he never stops to think he might be to one in need of > > > > deprogramming. > > > > > > > > > > spot on- the cynics are not above the naivete of the idealist, just 180 > > > degrees opposed. they have exactly same emotional attachment in being > > > rock solid in their assumptions, and desire to fix the outcome of the > > > object in question- in this case the practice of TM. > > > > > > the cynic and the idealist (or 'TB' and 'anti-TB') are both attempting to > > > do the same thing, predict the future by eliminating ambiguity, and > > > resist change. > > > > > 2 people each with over 30 yrs experience practicing tm and working within > > the tmo or living in ffld have a discussion here about their > > disappointments and dislikes regarding their experiences with the tmo and > > immediately another person feels the fervent need to come into that > > discussion and label them "cynics" trying to crush all good and idealism in > > the world. sorry, that is not a distinction between cynics and idealists, > > but just a fundamentalist getting pissed off that someone left their sect. > > > > someone who pooh poohs tm because they think MMY laughs funny or because > > all meditation is flaky is a cynic, not someone sincerely discussing their > > 30 yrs experience. > > > > and someone who gets tired of fake idealistic talk and groupthink in favor > > of a more real path is still an idealist. > > > Curtis labeled himself as a cynic. I labeled myself as an idealist. In > between, we live in shades of gray. The cynic who insists the world is black > or white, does indeed live to crush idealism. There isn't any wiggle room in > their life for beauty, magic and surrender of the heart. It makes them feel > ill. If someone says they believe in unicorns, the cynic's blood boils with > excitement at the thought of packing the unicorn believer into a box and > sending them off to the trash compactor. > > Curtis is not a cynic who lives in a black and white world. He is an > idealistic cynic, a purist, a magnanimous spirit, confident enough in himself > to treat the unicorn believer with respect. When it comes to Maharishi and I > wear my heart on my sleeve, I am well aware that I have made myself a target > for derision from cynics living in the world of black and white. Curtis > trusts his instincts, has a genuine interest in truthful self-inquiry and > courageous go-it-alone attitude about his spiritual path. I respect his > choice. I choose differently. Maharishi never failed or mislead me. I have > always felt confident in his direction. There is no right or wrong in any of > this. Curtis loves his spiritual path and I love mine. >
