--- In [email protected], "Irmeli Mattsson" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snip>
> Thoughts by words following each other in time actually
> were not there, but another form of more effective thinking that
> happens not by words and sentences. We all have this kind of
> thinking, but we observe only the grosser level thinking by words.

I suspect what one is aware of may vary among
individuals.  I know people who insist that
all thinking is in words, presumably because
that's what they're aware of in their own
thinking, and others who insist that much of
their thinking is not in words.  Or perhaps
some people *do* think almost exclusively in
words.  It doesn't seem to have anything to do
with intelligence or insightfulness; I've known
some exceptionally smart, profound thinkers who
believe they think entirely in words.

I don't think in words unless there is some
intention to  communicate what I'm thinking,
whether in reality or fantasy.  But I've known
this since I was a child--it was never a
function of the witnessing experience.

It's a bit odd, because I'm so verbally
oriented and don't have any artistic-type
talents.  (Also, my nonverbal thinking isn't
at all visual--I have tremendous difficulty
visualizing.  All the various spiritual and
healing exercises that involve visualizing
light or whatever are utterly useless to me.
They seem to take for granted that anybody
can visualize.)

I sometimes wonder whether people who
experience effort during TM are those who 
think primarily in words, and who are so
used to "hearing" words in their minds that
they don't recognize they're thinking the
mantra unless they can "hear" it like a word.

> I think this way also animals think or make sense of the world,
> although with the human brain capacity this kind of thinking can be
> much more cognitively advanced. 
> I think all my deeper insights and ideas have come this way. Also in
> my work in engineering.
> 
> But if you want to share these ideas with others I must find words 
> todescribe them.  This is usually the much more difficult part. 
> Insights usually appear spontaneously in a blink of an eye. The 
> laborious part is to find expressions in words, if I want to share 
> my insights.

Yup.  On the other hand, I find that sometimes
an initially nonverbal idea becomes clearer and
more useful if I put it in words, if I use verbal
communication mode to express the idea to myself,
as it were.  Other times, though, it loses
something in the translation!

All this probably has something to do with name
and form: nonverbal thinking is perhaps closer
to the "form" end, verbal thinking to the "name"
end of the continuum.





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