On Jun 11, 2009, at 7:08 PM, sparaig wrote:

--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote:


[...]
Of course it goes both ways: crackpots defend their theories beyond
any logic (according to everyone else). The point is: in Science, you
can't tell whose side of the argument is correct (if that even makes
sense)
WHILE the argument is still going on.

You're missing (I believe) the central point Ruth was responding to,
which is 'extraordinary states of consciousness require extraordinary
proof' and there is no extraordinary proof in any TM research. If so,
they'd be dying to get it replicated independently (like that will
ever happen). Instead they continue to put out extremely questionable
research (bad controls, bias, etc.) with things of little value. IOW,
they're essentially no different from napping X 20 B.I.D. Since
Purusha and Mother Divine both have the same or MORE experience in
terms of hours meditating, there is simply no excuse.


You missed MY point, which is that glitches in one person's eye, are a career as the Director of Research of CERN in another's. And you can't tell who is
"right" or "wrong" by looking at what the participants say, because
everybody gets it wrong, at least at first.

No, I heard your non sequitur.

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