--- In [email protected], Vaj <vajradh...@...> wrote: > > > On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote: > > > We have correlated physiological markers to specific described > > experiences that occur in more than one person. We do not know if > > the same markers might occur in different people in different > > circumstances. We do not know if there is any "cosmic" meaning > > (for lack of a better word) for the experience or the markers. > > > We also know that these traditions have for thousands of years > described these states as "extraordinary" in some manner. What's the > Sagan saying 'extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence'? > Extraordinary states of mind should therefore possess some > extraordinary characteristics, that is extraordinary physiologic > evidence.
Well, I guess "turya is the basis for other states" could be interpreted as saying that turya is special... > > If I had to give one overriding impression of most meditation > research is that there's little that is truly extraordinary. > And why would there be, given MMY's model? L.
