--- In [email protected], "Nelson" <nelsonriddle2...@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Richard M" <compost1uk@> wrote: > > > > > > Let's call the Turq docrine about opinion "TD". > > > > > > TD seems to be something like "Truth is relative to your > > > point of view and there is no Truth (capital 'T')". > > > > Not at all. You are making the same reading error > > that the rest here are. I stated my position very > > clearly: I don't *think* that there is any such > > thing as "absolute truth." But I am willing to be > > convinced otherwise. All you have to do is produce > > one. Just one. > > Would that mean that an observeable fact might not always > be true? For example- we live for varying numbers of > years and, then we don't. Has anyone seen it differently?
Thanks for at least *trying* to produce an example of an "absolute truth," Nelson. So far all the others who claim that such a thing exists have been afraid to even try. As it turns out, my "challenge" is an old and famous one, one that actually had an answer. It was proposed (at different times, obviously) by the Biblical King Solomon and by Abraham Lincoln, who challenged someone to produce a saying that would be true at all times and in all situations. The pro- posed answer to THAT challenge was, "This too shall pass," which is essentially the same as your answer. Congratulations... you now officially have the "wisdom of Solomon." I just found it interesting that those who were unwilling to even *try* to produce an example of an "absolute truth" were so willing to claim that me thinking that one was not likely was in itself a claim of "absolute truth." Especially because I went out of my way to say that I was open to someone coming up with an example of one, and knew ahead of time the "answer" to the koan I was proposing. Perhaps the "absolute truth" we are search- ing for is, "Those whose only joy in life is to play intellectual 'gotcha' games with one of their perceived 'enemies' will do anything to convince themselves that they've 'gotcha-d' him, even lying to themselves and others." Given FFL as an example, that seems to be even more absolute than "This too shall pass." :-) [ For the record, however, would Solomon's answer actually *be* absolute, given the Vedic concept (which I do not agree with) of creations "coming and going," and there being a time "in between" creations where there is no relative, only Absolute? If one believes that myth to be true, then even "This too (in this case, the Absolute) shall pass" is not true. ]
