Bluey, I'm sorry, my bad, all this time I've been assuming you have the wherewithal to understand Advaita, but, ya know, sorry Barry, sucks to be you,...ya just don't have the brain power to grasp Advaita.
Nope, ya don't, and shame on me from now on if I ever expect you to be intelligent again. Below, I repost to show the kind of presentation of Advaitan thought about which you have consistently been unable to show any grasp. Again, I get it. My bad. Presenting Advaita to you is not merely a "pearl before a swine" degree of error -- it's more like giving the Kashtuba Jewel to a chimpanzee. Edg --- In [email protected], Duveyoung <no_re...@...> wrote: > > Silly silly Turq. > > What a childish approach to debating ultimate truth. As if. As if! As if a > logical rearranging of concepts could be a spiritual process that was > anything but a cul de sac. > > One of the methods for approaching the Absolute: neti, neti, neti. > > Egoic attachment is a projection of congruency by one processing (ego) with > merely another processing of the brain. > > Get that? Doesn't seem that you do, widdle Bluey Boy. > > When neti is practiced, relativity is challenged to pony up something worthy > of the ego's projection, and that means that ultimately amness must be > presented to the ego -- only amness can satisfy the ego that it has found its > "soul mate." > > Neti, neti, neti is the equivalent of holding one's breath until the toddler > gets what its little purple face is scrunched up for: being picked up by > Mommy. Mother Divine is amness. Taking the TM mantra for a ride is the act > of saying neti to all other processing until one gets a processing that > satisfies it forever....see? > > This egoic practice of eschewing attachments weakens the monkey's motivation > to jump to another branch without the monkey first saying, "Why jump anywhere > else? -- it's always just another branch -- not what I'm really looking for." > > That neti-practiced ability to pause before jumping is the most powerful > ability that an ego can acquire. > > Finally, gaining that power, the ego is resolved into a permanent state of > neti and ends up having only itself to attach to -- that is AMNESS is > realized as the primal egoic embodiment. And that's the final attachment > that must be rent asunder. > > Having that ability of residing in that amness, and having practiced neti and > able to not fall in love with the next passing thought, ego now has the power > to begin to resist identification with amness. Ego now has but a loose > attachment to amness in that it has mastered avoiding attachment to all of > amness' baubles and trinkets -- manifestations only -- except this one last > manifest THING -- amness itself, a processing of a brain, the sound OM that > can be infinitely modulated to become ANY OTHER THING. > > Residing in amness, from that POV, the ego realizes its omnipotence and that > it is GOD, and also that it can be less than God -- a god of any dimension, a > master of time and space, and that it can manifest without restraint in any > guise, take on any incarnation, be an atom, a demon, a flower, a single > thought, dust on an angel's wing, whatever. > > Yep, neti, neti, neti teaches you that, because you have to keep saying, in > essence, "Nope, you can't get me to put my attention there" to everything! > Ego says: "I choose not to attach (ego process refuses to identify with > another process,)to any offering of the mind, and by having done so for a > long time, I finally have the psychic muscle to rein in this > attachment-addiction even when I'm attached to the godhead itself. > > Only then, ONLY THEN, can one (ego) hope to find that the Absolute can be > realized by the ego. Only then can the ego see that amness -- a processing -- > cannot be a suitable embodiment for egoic satisfaction, because finally the > ego sees that it too is not a suitable symbol of the all the truth that Godel > said couldn't be expressed. > > The ego finally sees that amness is claustrophobic -- the tiniest of gilded > prisons that won't even allow one Cosmic Breath to be taken. That's why > Brahma rejected the lotus-amness-bliss and tried to get to the Absolute > instead. As He traveled down the stalk, He was saying neti to the > blossom-heaven. > > The ego, neti-siddhi empowered, in a magnificent act of surrender, chooses to > shut up, stop singing OM, and listen-without-listening to non-sound, > non-sense, non-non, for the first time. > > It dies on purpose. > > Only by finally doing neti on its own existence, only by stopping everything > including itself, can the ego discover that the Absolute is in every > interstice between thoughts, between quarks, and between iterations of ego, > and most importantly that the Absolute is the real-non-real-unendingness and > that it is the only fitting "thing" for ego to identify with. > > But, but, but, here's the funny part: now the tables have been fully turned, > and the ego sees that all along the Absolute has been informing ego -- not > the other way around. Ego (cosmic in status) realizes it is but a > manifestation, not an Identity that can attach to a manifestation. > > Realizing this, the ego becomes a burnt rope: looks like the self, seems to > be the self, but just plain ain't. A pile of ash with no ropeness -- except > rope-ish form, illusion, a rope mirage in amness' desert. > > Only then, can the ego say, "Even when I'm not operative, THAT, which I am > but a symbol of, IS. IS when all of creation isn't. I, cosmic ego, bow to > THAT even though I am not worthy of being an embodiment of THAT. Even though > I am the best of the best attempts to symbolize THAT, I am but a cup > overflowing with THAT and cannot contain IT. > > That's why Turq can win his kindergarten debate every time -- cuz he remains > on the surface of things -- floating on an air mattress on an ocean of truth > and pontificating about the nature of the ocean's floor's lack of waviness. > All he needs is a Pina Colada with a tiny umbrella, and he's all set for life. > > As if. > > Silly, silly, silly, Turq. > > No wonder he's blue. Wouldn't you be blue if you knew you were still, after > all the decades, floating in a cafe existence and so very very tired of tiny > umbrellas? > > Edg
