--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <no_re...@...> wrote: <snip> > As it turns out, my "challenge" is an old > and famous one, one that actually had an > answer. It was proposed (at different times, > obviously) by the Biblical King Solomon and > by Abraham Lincoln, who challenged someone > to produce a saying that would be true at > all times and in all situations.
Nuh-uh, that wasn't your challenge. Here's your challenge: "Put up or shut up. Your 'non-relative truth' can either be produced or it cannot. And producing it only in terms of the relative or in comparison to the relative or from a relative point of view is...duh...just one more example of relativism." The pro- > posed answer to THAT challenge was, "This > too shall pass," But this doesn't meet the terms of *your* challenge. <snip> > I just found it interesting that those who > were unwilling to even *try* to produce an > example of an "absolute truth" You're making a "reading error" if you think all of us who challenged you were arguing for absolute truths. I certainly wasn't. were so > willing to claim that me thinking that one > was not likely was in itself a claim of > "absolute truth." Well, "not likely" wasn't what you said to begin with, but of course it doesn't help you wiggle out of your logical jam here; it's still a claim, and it's still self-contradictory. Especially because I went > out of my way to say that I was open to > someone coming up with an example of one, Doesn't help, sorry. > and knew ahead of time the "answer" to the > koan I was proposing. You didn't say that, but it wouldn't help anyway. > Perhaps the "absolute truth" we are search- > ing for is, "Those whose only joy in life > is to play intellectual 'gotcha' games with > one of their perceived 'enemies' will do > anything to convince themselves that they've > 'gotcha-d' him, even lying to themselves and > others." Barry Wright, Master of Inadvertent Irony. (I imagine he'd claim playing gotcha games with his perceived "enemies" isn't his *only* joy in life, but it's kind of odd that he would assume it's *their* only joy in life when he doesn't know anything *about* their lives.)
