These claims are usefull in examining when scientific ignorance becomes 
scientific fraud.

--- In [email protected], "Rick Archer" <r...@...> wrote:
>
> Comments from someone in FF:
>   
> 
> Trivedi/Guruji  was in Fairfield this past weekend.  He offers blessings to
> both groups and individuals.  Huge crowd on Wednesday the 17th at Sondheim.
> Then smaller crowd at Morning Star on Sat the 20th, more individual
> attention.  
> 
> He's returning to FF on April 18.  Group sessions are $15-25.  Still
> powerful.
> Some knowledge, etc. from him:

No problems here.  Sprititul claims need no more support than assertions that 
the undifined "blessings" are taking place.

> 
> Earth changing consciousness faster than individuals.  Mother Earth's
> frequency is alpha.

This claim is getting warmer. Alpha is a specific frequency so it should 
require some description of the measurment used to make it meaningful.  It is 
sciency sounding but meaningless without context.

  If we resonate with Her, then She can meet Her
> responsibility of taking care of us. 

Spiritual claim,none of my business.
 
> 
> People immediately shift to alpha when being blessed by Trivedi.  MUM
> scientist Alaric Arenander tested his wife Cynthia who's been rounding for
> 3+ years.  Her alpha, already high, increased with eyes closed, then
> dramatically increased when Trivedi did blessing.

Here we start to cross the line of using specific terms that are measurable to 
give more credence to the spiritual claims.  Without establishing anything to 
compare this measurement to it is meaningless.  Does Benny Hin get the same 
results? Does alpha increase when other people say sweet things to a person who 
is hooked up?  No metric is given and no context to understand the claim.  And 
what is the standard deviation of these measurments to determine their 
statistical significance?

> 
> Conductivity is very important word on this planet, ability to flow energy.
> 5% of people are super conductors, 20% good conductors.  Depends on receiver
> having low resistance.

I'm gunna just substitute having low resistance with suggestibility.

> 
> Trivedi's blessings kick out radioactivity

Specific claim.  Highly misleading without a metric of measurement.

 and GMO, even in next generation.
> Experiments show that he can change size of atom, increase energy bt atoms

Yeah, this is just too bogus to even warrent being called deceptive. I picture 
Jim Carry talking out of his butt.

> 
> Experiments also show that:
> his pituitary is egg-shaped and larger than other humans

Bingo!  Now we are in the completely misleading claims area. First of all what 
is the statistical mean for pituitary size?  Does the distibution of size 
follow a bell curve which would mean that half the population has larger ones?  
Since I am not a neuro-scientist I have no way to evaluate this claim. For all 
I know big pituitary is correlated with forms of retardation.  A big thyroid is 
a bad thing.  What does this mean?  And this assumes that someone actually did 
an MRI to evaluate this size and shape.  A person with the training to present 
this information in a context where it could be reasonably evaluated. But that 
does not seem to be the qoal.  The goal is to bamboozle with science words in a 
an undefined context with no hope of perspective on its meaning. They are 
drawing the bullseye around the arrow.  They find something that is different 
(how much?) and claim it is evidence of his specialness.

> skin elasticity better than new born baby
> no plaque in arteries at age of 46

This is subject to all the above complaints.  What is this compared to? I am 
reminded of the Afghan folk song:

"There is a boy across the river with a bottom like a peach, but alas I cannot 
swim."

What does his peach bottom mean?
If he is Indian his higher melinan in his skin makes this easier than my own 
background of Irish and French with skin so white I glow like an Iphone in a 
movie theater.  Dermatoligists have raved about my skin and I am 7 years older. 
It is genetic and I don't smoke, big deal. And I have fantastic arteries 
without a vegitarian diet so I can match that claim too.  What is being claimed 
about his specialness? How do these comparitive measurements relate to the rest 
of society? These claims of his physical specialness are presented in a 
misleading way with zero context.

> sympathetic and parasympathetic systems run simultaneously

Everybody's does, this is rediculous.

> does not breathe from diaphragm

And that is a good thing? He has shallow shoulder breath? What is being claimed?


> 
> FF people reported less fear, more happiness, more blissful yogic flying.
> Final output of blessing is more happiness in all areas of life.  Less
> mental restlessness, more calm, better sleep. 

Here we find the technique of panacea claims. Anything can be considered 
evidence after seeing him. On any given day pay attention to yourself and some 
things will be better and some things will be worse.  With the filter of "what 
got better" you will come up with something.  The deception is heightened by 
the conflation of simultaneity with causation which is completely 
scientifically bogus.

This is all scientific method 101, these are not subtle points and I am a 
layman. But the presentation of these claims is using the words of science to 
create confidence.  Deliberately misleading.


 On the other hand, Trivedi
> says that spirit is always resting.

Whew, out ot the specific claims and back to pure poetry.  


> 
> Check out Trivedi Foundation for details of research.

I did and he uses the techniques of no context to make absurd claims about what 
has been proven.  Somebody at some level has the science training to know it it 
bullshit, even if he is an innocent.

A person who was serious about his work should embrace this criticism and 
better yet get a big brained real scientist to present these claims in a way 
that is not deceptive and misleading.

I'm gunna take a deep breath from my diaphram, change the size of some atoms 
and wait for that to happen.



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