--- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "Alex Stanley" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "Patrick Gillam"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Alex Stanley wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > > Has anyone actually awakened as a result of using this
> > > > > technology?
> > > > 
> > > > I wonder.
> > > > 
> > > > Alex, yours is the question I find myself asking about 
> > > > any new thing I hear about. 
> > > 
> > > I find myself asking it about the old things, too. TM, for
> example.
> > > For all TM's "rah rah rah, we're the supersonic jet plane to
> > > enlightenment" spiel, how many have actually awakened as a 
result
> of
> > > practicing TM? From what I gather, it's a rarefied few.
> > > 
> > 
> > What "gather?" Have youj bothered EVER to read the links
> > I've provided to the research on long-term TMers reporting
> > witnessing 24/7 for years at a time?
> 
> To be honest, Lawson, due to your prodigious output on FFL, I tend 
to
> skip over your posts. So, I have no idea what links you're referring
> to. But, as Vaj pointed out, witnessing is not enlightenment. I've
> had my own taste of witnessing, and while it has a certain "gee 
whiz"
> quality to it, it was still clear to me that something hadn't
> completely "gelled" in terms of awakening.

You've had witnessing 24/7 for the past several years?




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