--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Peter
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Sorry, but I'm not going to continue this
> > > discussion.
> > > > I've got to go have sex with a goat.
> 
> 
> 
> > > Thats a nice pattern. Drive by, skim a post, miss
> > > major points, argue
> > > loudly against points not made, then claim being to
> > > busy to even read
> > > a fairly careful crafted response clarifying the
> > > issues and pointing
> > > out where your quick skim has lead your assessments
> > > astray. 
> > > 
> > > Well, yes I have made a judegement about you
> > > (pertaining to decisions
> > > future action) -- not to be confused with
> > > judgemental views.
> > > 
> > > All hail the monkey mind!
> 
> 
>  
> > Thank you Akasha...too sweet of you. I'm so glad you
> > have no expectations and hence no judgements. I just
> > can't get worked-up about "tacky" decor and how it
> > proves  I am inadequate for you in some way. Talk
> > about expectations, Jeez! You responded to me, I
> > responded to you and you find my response to be
> > inadequate. Who has the expectations here? Next time
> > just call me fuck-face and things will be clearer for
> > all of us. 
> 
> 
> This exchange is actually prettty funny. There is a lot that 
appears 
> to bubble up in Peter's mind reagerding my positions, assumptions, 
> and mood, for which no hint exists on paper. Where does these 
things
> come from inside Peter?
> 
> As a quick aside, I posted the "Thats a nice pattern. Drive 
by, ..." 
> response and then deleted it several minutes later, thinking the
> wording was a bit wobbly and the tone a bit impolite. I had been
> trying to say in a non-inflamatory way that I found his refusal to
> even read my response to his erred post a bit rude. But I deleted 
the
> "Thats a nice pattern" post, thinking it was unproductive.  Peter
> apparently gets his FF by e-mail, so the deletion from the archives
> had no effect on him. 
> 
> In Peters mirage, he responds, with what appears to be heavy 
sarcsm,
> "I'm so glad you have no expectations and hence no judgements."
> 
> No where in my half a dozen posts on this topic did I state or 
imply I
> had no expectations. I countered UNC and Irmeli on their suggestion
> that expectations are not good, with major exceptions to such a
> "rule". In fact, my interest in the topic is do to the fact that I
> have expectations of the "inappropriate" kind (IMO), though some of
> them I find are of a subtle camaflouged nature. I find this thread
> useful in routing out inappropriate ones. So its quite startling 
and
> then funny to have Peter claim that I claim no expectations. Where
> does this come from inside Peter?
> 
> Then, Peter claims that I hold that I have no judgements. Again, I
> have stated no such thing. I have said I am interested in the link
> between expectations and judgements because the former appears to
> dispell the latter. A tool I am intersted in precisely because I 
find
> an internaldialog of "judgemental views" do clutter my mind at 
times.
> Again its funny to find Peter claiming otherwise. Where does this 
come
> from inside Peter?
> 
> Then Peter claims "I just can't get worked-up about "tacky" decor 
and
> how it  proves  I am inadequate for you in some way. Talk
> about expectations, Jeez!" 
> 
> Again, no such  thing did I say or imply. Neither anything about 
him
> being inadequate or about my having or not having expectations 
about
> him. In the posts peter did not have time to read ("too busy 
fucking
> goats"), I downplayed the whole "tacky" thing -- as just a 
springboard
> to an exploration of expectations and judgemental views. But, 
again,
> where do these distortions of the written page come from inside 
Peter?
> 
> Peter goes on to say, "You responded to me, I responded to you and 
you
> find my response to be inadequate. Who has the expectations here?" 
> 
> Well, since Peter missed major points in my "first" post, I 
assumed he
> only skimmed it. That can happen. So I wrote a polite response
> pointing out where he had missed the points of this and prior 
posts in
> the thread, and tried to weave the points into a  more succinct 
form.
> Thus, regarding this "first" post, I didn't have much expectation,
> though i guess I do "wish" people would read with a bit more care
> before they respond in what appears to be in a purely reactive, and
> not a thoughtful or considered way. 
> 
> Upon posting my response, I was a bit surprise that Peter 
declined  to
> read it. After taking an hour to try to bring him up to speed on 
the
> some points he had missed in the thread, he says he can't bother. 
Ok. 
> 
> But I was more surprised by his crassness.  "Sorry, but I'm not 
going
> to continue this discussion. I've got to go have sex with a goat." 
In
> most professional situations, if a colleague sent one a note 
saying, I
> am not going to read your response to my quick memo on your paper
> because  I've rather go have sex with a goat." it would not be 
taken
> well. But after the inital shock of his words, I just laughed. no
> great expectation here.
> 
> Peter then asks that I "Next time just call[him] fuck-face and 
things
> will be clearer for  all of us. My two main posts were not hostile 
to
> Peter. I thought they were collegial. He then finds hostility and
> phantom attackers somewhere in the written words, a hostility
> sufficient that one would call him a fuck face. Huh???!!  Where 
does
> this come from inside Peter?

Why don't you ask him directly? :-)




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