You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that what counts for you is the person vs. their state of consciousness. Yes, Absolutely. It is a deeply personal thing, evaporating into, and enriching normal life when the task is done.
Unity Consciousness is a fancy label for me experiencing you being more like me, than unlike me. --- In [email protected], maskedzebra <no_reply@...> wrote: > > > > MMY basically said that unless you can perform the siddhis at any time, you > > can't really lay claim to being in Unity. > > > > RESPONSE: He did indeed say this. He even said it on my Six Month Course > (where I purportedly entered into a different state of consciousness). > > Funny thing, I was never convinced that MMY was enlightened. I was never > convinced that he could perform the siddhis better than I could. It certainly > seemed plausible, but I'm a skeptic through and through. > > When I heard my Siddhis Administrator respond to the question: "Can MMY > float?" > with the answer: "One might assume that since he is teaching others how to do > it, that he can," my reaction wasn't "Oh, that means he must be able to do > it!" > > My reaction was: "MMY told him to say that. What a clever way of sidestepping > the answer to the question." > > Your own answer, that I snipt, appears to be that you believed your state of > consciousness to be such that you didn't need to validate it for yourself, but > my own take is that were I to be having such internal experiences, my natural > agnosticism would compel me to attempt to validate things, were there such a > trivial validation available. You didn't feel the need. I would. > > Lawson > > RESPONSE: No, Lawson, I very much did need to validate it for myself. But you > see, Unity Consciousness validates itselfI wrote 11 books about this: either > about Unity Consciousness directly, or about world events as seen through the > perspective of my enlightenment. (All these books, what remained of them, > after I disavowed the reality of enlightenment, were destroyed. But some of > them are floating around.) Regarding world events, if you want to get a dose > of what enlightenment can do for you, see my description of meeting Ayatollah > Khomeini. That will demonstrate the biased perception that enlightenment > produces in a human being. (You can read it on the Internet.) > Of course I thought of this "trivial validation" [can you perform a siddhi], > but, believe it or not, when you are under the delusion of enlightenment YOUR > LIFE IS NOT YOUR OWN. When I contemplated subjecting my enlightenment to this > very test, immediately I was aware of a much larger and unfathomable context > within which my consciousness was being held (I thought it was reality; it > was not), which insinuated silently to me: Forget it. This (being able to > perform a Siddhi) means nothing. And the very idea that anyone would believe > it was relevant to the consideration of enlightenment was ironic in the > extreme (this impression I deem now to have been the mentality of these Vedic > godswho, believe or not, 'owned' me at this point in my lifeI believe > Maharishi was owned in this same way, only he didn't get the gratuitous grace > that I did to realize the whole damn thing was cosmic bull****too bad for > him). > > No, enlightenment represented a complete and radical break with everything I > had ever known as to 1. my identity 2. my consciousness 3. my actions 4. my > experience of myself in the act of existing itself. And everything that > occurred on that mountain in Arosa, Switzerland in September 1976, > scrupulously and gloriously conformed to everything Maharishi had said about > what Unity would be like. I wrote a three hundred page book about the > experience (What is Enlightenment? Sutras of The Personal with Commentary). A > very bad book by the way. But holy cow, Lawson, put it this way: when the > event happened NOTHING WAS THE SAME. And the powers and abilities that were > bestowed upon me in those seconds, were intoxicating and incredible. But, as > it weretake this the right wayI was a plaything of the gods. And I nearly > did myself in because of this. Although it took ten years for the > hallucinatory reality of Unity Consciousness to start to come off. And then > by cracky, life was hellfor the last 24 years this is what it has been. > Although the metapsychotherapeutic methods I have applied seemed to have been > effectual. > > You understand, then, that I am prejudiced, biased, antagonistic towards the > idea of Unity, enlightenment, self-realization. What counts for me is the > person only, not one's 'state of consciousness'. But I could give you a > thousand meaningful criteria (based upon Maharishi's teachings) that proved > that I was in Unity Consciousness. Have you tried LSD? Enlightenment is much > more powerful. Albeit a state of supreme mystical deceit. >
